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To think DH should stop seeing this female "friend"

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springycurls · 04/03/2017 15:01

First time posting in AIBU, I really don't think I am but DH won't discuss it properly AT ALL

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy. He is in a very niche job working for the government that needs a lot of specific, high level qualifications (PhD as a minimum)- it can be very demanding and a lot of it he isn't allowed to talk about. (this is relevant!!)

He has this female "friend" who he met many years ago. She is in the same job but is 10 years younger and though he wasn't her manager he mentored her when she first started. They do seem to have a lot in common- DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH. They became friends and stayed in touch but there's always been something "off" about her. I've heard from friends who knew him before he met me that they used to go on "dates" e.g. for dinner or films even though she has a partner. That hasn't happened much recently. She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

Anyway I went through his FB messages and whatsapps and it seems like they message quite frequently- at least once every week. Sometimes she starts it, sometimes he does. Usually it's about some of these weird interests or sounding off about work- again the very specific stuff about their job that us "plebs" wouldn't understand - but I've noticed that she has a pet name for him that no one else uses and he uses a pet name for her. She sometimes ends her messages with xxx. They are due to be away for work in London in a couple of months. It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

She has in the past tagged him on facebook and it's always a bit inappropriate- like they both went to this comic book expo thing and she photographed him there with some models.

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him. He says she's not rude it's just "we think the same way". I think she's a bit snooty as she seems to presume me and DH will have the same interests. We had her round for dinner once and it was awful! She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats) and she made a bloody great fuss of it. She then wanted to talk politics which was a bit controversial as DH and I don't agree and she openly said she was shocked by that and not agreeing would be a "deal breaker" for her and her partner!
He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no. She sent us a card and a small gift anyway which I thought was quite passive aggressive!

I have tried to get him to talk about her but he just tells me to leave it and that there's nothing going on. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right for him to have this sort of relationship. All his other female friends are our age, married and he's friendly with the husbands too. I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

How can I get my DH to see this is a bit weird, and am I being unreasonable to think he should reduce his contact with her and keep it just professional? She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

OP posts:
PNGirl · 05/03/2017 17:09

When I say I would say YWNBU, I mean to want him to talk to you and reassure you, not to like demand he stops talking to her or anything else drastic!

kali110 · 05/03/2017 17:10

Male/female heterosexual 'friendships' aren't advisable.
Grin biggest load of bollocks i've ever read on here!
Maybe married couples should never ever have friends then elephant? They should only be friends with each other Grin
I have a male friend i've known for over 10years. Amazingly my dp has never once accused me of having an inappropriate relationship with him. Confused
Why? Because we're friends.
He's able to understand thT males and females are able to be friends with the opposite sex...
Maybe an alien concept too you...
Feel like i'm back at school Hmm

If this was a male saying all this, then no people would be calling him abusive, nothing to do with rights.

corythatwas · 05/03/2017 17:12

Gileswithachainsaw Sun 05-Mar-17 16:37:50
"By that logic bi sexual people should never have any friends or be friends with each other"

Certainly not. In fact, it would be a lot safer if no one was ever friends with ANYONE. Or ever spoke to anyone. And perhaps wore very, very dark glasses when issuing from the marital home so as not to catch sight of other people.

Redglitter · 05/03/2017 17:12

Male/female heterosexual 'friendships' aren't advisable

What absolute rubbish. I work in a male dominated environment and have a small number of male friends who are married. We meet for coffee and message regularly. I have no desire to shag any of them. And thankfully their wives have no issues with our friendship

Againagain97 · 05/03/2017 17:17

Theelephantsurprise that has to be the most ludicrous statement I have ever heard on MN!

Male and female just cannot be friends without it ending in shagging.

You are insulting any normal persons intelligence and integrity.

Not all men are sexually attracted to all women and vice versa!!!!!

hickorydickorynurseryrhyme · 05/03/2017 17:29

It might all be innocent but personally I'm a great believer in trusting your instincts so if you feel something ain't quite right then it probably isn't. I'd probably feel the same. I do think some of the comments are unkind too and calling you mental is a bit much!

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2017 17:34

And always take the stairs..even if on the 23rd floor cos God forbid you take a lift and someone else is in it.

Or you could you know exercise some self control and not shag someone regardless of whether they throw themselves at you or not

ilovesooty · 05/03/2017 17:36

It was worth returning to this to see what amusing bollocks Elephant would come up with next. GrinGrinGrin

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/03/2017 17:36

You are all so fixated on your 'rights' that you forget what human beings are. Male/female heterosexual 'friendships' aren't advisable. But go right ahead with yours. I have no problem if your lives end up fucked up because you won't see sense.

Most ridiculous statement of the day goes to........

Jaxhog · 05/03/2017 17:36

I suspect a lot of the jealousy is because you're still very new into your relationship. Nothing you've described seems very strange.

I exchange similar 'are you thinking what I'm thinking' messages with male friends, as my DH does with female friends. Two of my best female friends have been out to dinner with us as a threesome. One of them even stays over if she has a bad migraine, whether I'm at home or not. We don't have pet names for our 'other gender' friends, but then we don't for each other either.

Basically, it comes down to whether you trust him or not. If you're checking is emails etc, I would guess that you don't. Unless you want a miserable married life, you need to trust him. Unless he gives you concrete reason not to e.g. hiding stuff or lying

allchattedout · 05/03/2017 17:39

More likely that your life will end up fucked up Elephant. If you forbid your partner from having opposite sex friends, he is more likely to hide it from you. I know a few 'crazy wives' like yourself and the OP and their DHs all have numerous female friends at work, but hide it from their wives because they don't want the hassle.

But yeah, carry on. Not my problem if your life ends up fucked up because you are so paranoid.

Attitude84 · 05/03/2017 17:41

To be honest I think everyone is being a little harsh. Yes it may be due to a little jealousy, but her husband isn't helping it by not seeing things from her point of view. They do seem flirty, and I can't say if I were in the OP position that it wouldn't bother me, as it would. As long as they are friends, let them get on with it, but your husband needs to see things from your side too, I'll bet if this was reversed, he wouldn't like it either. Try n sit him down and have a chat and reach a compromise fair for all concerned, good luck Hun x

Gileswithachainsaw · 05/03/2017 17:41

I'm often alone with men either staff or customers at work.

Should I quit my job elephant

SherbrookeFosterer · 05/03/2017 17:41

Sounds quite innocent really.

Try not to worry too much.

corythatwas · 05/03/2017 17:46

hickorydickorynurseryrhyme Sun 05-Mar-17 17:29:14
"It might all be innocent but personally I'm a great believer in trusting your instincts so if you feel something ain't quite right then it probably isn't"

Doesn't that depends on whose instincts?

My IL's neighbour became paranoid and accused her husband of carrying on with a floosie downstairs while she was asleep. The poor man was being treated with cancer of the prostrate and was hardly in a state to be carrying on with anyone. She also thought he was having it off with my MIL (then in her late 70s).

She trusted her instincts, just as you suggest. Made her husband's life pretty miserable at a time when he could have done with some support. And ended up with him divorcing her.

CactusFred · 05/03/2017 17:51

I think YABU. I have several close male friends that I keep in touch with and see when possible without DH. DH doesn't mind because he TRUSTS me!

Bluntness100 · 05/03/2017 17:54

Yes it may be due to a little jealousy

Youallpissmeoff · 05/03/2017 17:57

Father - it is possible to do a PhD without a masters. I was offered that whilst still doing my BSc. Depends how bright you are. Also I was offered it on a 3 yr accelerated program.

Some of us are able to do it that quickly Wink

northernshepherdess · 05/03/2017 17:59

I have mostly male pals because I've mostly male orientated interests.
Hubby's best pal is a girl. I've met her and we've all spent time together. She's great fun... and also a lesban. .. though hubby said that was bollocks and he's known her for years etc etc... then he found out she's been in a relationship with another girl for 4 years on the quiet 😂

corythatwas · 05/03/2017 18:01

Attitude84 Sun 05-Mar-17 17:41:07
"To be honest I think everyone is being a little harsh. Yes it may be due to a little jealousy, but her husband isn't helping it by not seeing things from her point of view. "

So seeing it from her pov, he should accept that he is immature and she has a right to change him and he should abandon his, completely harmless interests because she thinks he is too old?

Owlzes · 05/03/2017 18:06

Gileswithachainsaw - no, you're allowed to go into work, but only if you wear a full head latex mask to make sure no one sees you and communicate only through large hold up signs. Otherwise it will lead immediately to rampant shagging in the stationary cupboard.

Willow2017 · 05/03/2017 18:09

You are all so fixated on your 'rights' that you forget what human beings are. Male/female heterosexual 'friendships' aren't advisable. But go right ahead with yours. I have no problem if your lives end up fucked up because you won't see sense.

Jesus Elephant all the people I know can manage to keep it in their pants, and still be friends with the opposite sex, maybe you just know the wrong kind of people? Or do you seriously fancy every man you come in contact with and want to get his kit off? (Think you havwe a problem there.)
Bloody sure I dont!

Owlzes · 05/03/2017 18:14

Oh, and everyone knows that bisexuals have no friends...only prey...

ilovesooty · 05/03/2017 18:16

you forget what human beings are

I suspect she believes all men are anti social, violent and potential rapists unless they're appropriately trained. Hmm

twattymctwatterson · 05/03/2017 18:36

Ok op I'm going to try to be kind here because I'm an insecure person myself and can be jealous. There is nothing at all suspicious about this friendship and the woman in question has done absolutely nothing wrong. This is 100% your problem. You would "dislike" any woman who came into contact with your DH who you saw as younger/more attractive/more successful than you. Your behaviour here has already been pretty poor and I guarantee that if you push this with your DH you will push him away. In all honesty I wouldn't marry someone who banned a long standing friend from our wedding and expected me to give up various hobbies after we were married. In fact, if you had come here and posted about how your DH wanted you to give up a pre-dating friendship, stop various hobbies, went through your messages and banned a friend from the wedding, I'd tell you he was abusive and to Ltb

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