I never met someone from NM to discuss MN. Honest. Trump thread cont

[amispartacus]

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

...is all of the illegal leaks of classified and other information. It is a total "witch hunt!"

But I'm thinking - if the information is there, classified or not, if it is damning - isn't THAT the real issue?

Complete hypocrisy as usual.

He welcomed leaks and full disclosure for Hillary.
He leaked his own stories to the press.

In a world where officials lie without shame and with impunity, whistleblowing is a moral imperative.

Meanwhile the big guns are out.

Biden on treatment of courts.

twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/837480923482423296

Albright on Trump's demagogy driving ISIS recruitment.

twitter.com/CNN/status/837481656491606016

It also turns out some people weren't so careful with email use either.

[[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/02/mike-pence-personal-email-hacked-aol-governor?CMP=twt_gu Mike Pence used his AOL email for state business as governor – and was hacked
Vice-president under scrutiny for using his personal email account to discuss security issues as Indiana governor, which was compromised by a scammer]]

EPA headless head Pruitt used private email for work while State Attorney General, and LIED about it

I don't know. Lock them up?

Looks like the Democrats are starting to get (a favourite MN saying) their ducks in a row.

Trump ought to be careful with that rope he's playing with. But he says nah nah nan nah nah, sticks tongue out & says patronisingly I'm not going to accidentally hang self..............................Some time later rope gets stuck tight round his neck & it's too late to be revived

Agree Lweji re:hypocrisy. It's as if laws apply to other people, but not to him and his circle. It is indeed a "witch hunt" and one that is completely needed.

The WP road map to how Russian investigations could go.
It doesn't look very promising to me.

twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/837253300550520833

We may need to wait until after the next election cycle, and if GOP lose their majority.
Or they consider that Trump is ready to be replaced.

Quite a Twitter-rant there, Trumpenstein. Careful or people will think you've lost your itty-bitty mind! (Actually, ignore that! Can't lose what you never had.)

Maybe the Dems in Congress have been so (seemingly) quiet because they knew the time would come that the Trump Regime would start to unravel without much help from them. Please, let it be so! I can be patient. I can wait.

Narrative is quite a bigly word and concept.

Um...if there are leaks from your own team, isn't that an indictment of your own leadership rather than anyone else's?

Oh yuck. From that Washington Post article linked above, about 45 using the Seal's widow:

"As the applause went on and Carryn Owens stood weeping, Trump offered what in the tiny, narcissistic world he exists in is the highest form of praise: 'And Ryan is looking down, right now, you know that. And he’s very happy, because I think he just broke a record,' referring to the length of the ovation."

We've talked about 45's obsession with ranking; seems there's no circumstance where he'll leave off.

www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2017/03/01/the-pundits-are-wrong-trumps-handling-of-the-ryan-owens-affair-was-contemptibly-cynical/?utm_term=.d79a8a934e9c

Yy, "narrative" is a bigly word.

I reckon he had, ahem, assistance with that lot. It's in full sentences, for a start...

Yes, another twitter rant. But it's spelled correctly, in complete sentences, and fairly coherent (by his standards). Someone's either vetting these, or he has a new assistant with better writing skills.

I'm wary of this New Communicating Trump. Many people have said they have problems because of his behaviour, not his policies after all.

The 'real' story is the leaks?

Surely the real story is the classified information that has been leaked and what the information tells us.

The angrier he gets, the closer people get to the truth.

his response could have been worded better

He could have told the truth? Did you lie? Well, my response could have been worded better.

Lewji thanks for posting the link last night to the brilliant Rachel Maddow clip on Trump's Russian money links. As she says at the end, it all begins to make sense:

“Still, worth watching Maddow's links via Cyprus.

youtu.be/WX8dgbr5EI8”

Many people have said they have problems because of his behaviour, not his policies after all.

True. And I suspect the health cover losses, water poisoning, war, prices, and so on, will have to get really bad before they realise what went wrong. And some people will still blame Democrats or migrants and Muslims.

Another Press Gaggle yesterday, Angry Spice is just tripping over himself. He's in danger of either sounding "out of the loop" or uninformed:
www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/02/press-gaggle-press-secretary-sean-spicer-en-route-joint-base-andrews

He cannot just let the fact he won drop, can he?! Just because he knows that if he'd lost, he'd still be carping on about it - he blames everything the Dems do on being beaten. FFS - that was then, we are NOW and your messed up policies and erratic behaviour is why the Dems are pissed off... it's still all about you, just not how you think

Recuse is my new word of the week!

Question: is it easier to create fake Instagram accounts than Twitter accounts? Or are Trump's core audience just on Instagram?

The way he keeps going on about his election win seems almost plaintive now -much like the man in Pleasantville with "where's my dinner?" It's like "I won! Where's the love? Where's the hero worship?" He doesn't get that government officials, even the POTUS, are not movie stars. Their public is much more critical. And for the love of God, someone sit him down and make him watch Spider-Man so he learns that lesson about "with great power comes great responsibility."

Bloomberg article - Fox CEO Worried About Dismissal of Negative Stories as Fake News

Murdoch: ‘Real worry’ in term being co-opted by politicians

	Fox News host tried to separate fake news from tough reporting"

“That’s been co-opted by a political class to denigrate things that they don’t want to hear,” Murdoch said at the Enders Analysis media and telecom conference in London. “That’s around the world. That’s a real worry.”

Good article IMO
theconversation.com/never-mind-truth-and-lies-trumpism-rejects-the-very-idea-of-making-sense-72824?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20March%202%202017%20-%2068865115&utm_content=Latest%20from%20The%20Conversation%20for%20March%202%202017%20-%2068865115+CID_138b92733a2f5029eb887a763c91793b&utm_source=campaign_monitor_uk&utm_term=Never%20mind%20truth%20and%20lies%20%20Trumpism%20rejects%20the%20very%20idea%20of%20making%20sense

'What Trumpism is forcing us to recognise is that the conditions for making sense of the world have palpably shifted in the past ten years or so. It is no longer (and never was) enough to laugh or rage at clowns on platforms like Youtube or Twitter. Instead, each and every one of us is being provoked to learn about the networks of power, money, and influence that make these platforms possible, and which created the incoherent, dangerous spectacle unfolding before our eyes'