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amispartacus · 02/03/2017 17:26

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GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:21

Don't know - didn't see any mention of her. Ivanka and her husband and children were. Likely she was.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:25

Harry Siegel‏Verified account @harrysiegel 12m12 minutes ago
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DHS will issue twice a year reports counting and detailing violence against women, including honor killings, by foreign nationals pic.twitter.com/95bbVVDIfy
A new WH factsheet forwarded to me, & dated today.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:26

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Trump team now rejecting Comeys denial. This may escalate quickly.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:27

Re the above "violence against women" tweet....

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Jessica Valenti Retweeted Harry Siegel
Meanwhile the administration wants to cut Violence Against Women grants

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:29

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Former SNP leader: Nicola Sturgeon cannot avoid second independence referendum 'at worst possible time' www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/06/former-snp-leader-nicola-sturgeon-cannot-avoid-second-independence/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 14:30

They've rejected a statement by the Director of the FBI? Shock

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:32

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Since Donald Trump became president, his sons' business travel has became much more complicated and expensive n.pr/2n5JQF8

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:35

cozie yep. Apparently they want nothing less than a Congressional Review. I wonder if they think it will derail the Russia stuff??

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 14:38

You don't diss the FBI in public. Strewth.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:41

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Supreme Court punts on transgender case. Sends case back to appeals court in light of the Trump action to rescind Obama's guidance

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Supreme Court won't resolve for now the question of whether trans kids are covered by federal law banning sex discrimination in education

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:42

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GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:45

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This could be the first president in U.S. history to effectively impeach himself by demanding Congress find evidence of his own malfeasance.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:47

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The first @realDonaldTrump administration @StateDept briefing had been scheduled for today. It's now been postponed.

Presumably bumped to give more coverage to their new EO travel ban coming out today???

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 14:48

"This could be the first president in U.S. history to effectively impeach himself by demanding Congress find evidence of his own malfeasance."
Sorry, I'm missing something here? That's surely not what's happening? Is the above a joke?

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 14:51

Not a joke, I reckon. He's challenging 'them' in anticipation that they'll back down. A risky strategy.

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 14:53

Seriously can't get my head round what's happening here (wiregate). Feeling very stupid.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 14:57

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Per AP reporting, new Travel ban expected to exempt:
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Unlike first one as well, there is no exclusion of Syrian refugees, it bans all refugees instead for 120 days effective March 16.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 15:01

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DHS Sec. Kelly, Sec. of State Tillerson and AG Sessions to deliver remarks on "issues related to visas and travel" at 11:30am ET

PausingFlatly · 06/03/2017 15:18

Both 45 and Steve Bannon have been accused by their now ex-wives of violent assault.

I don't have the energy to articulate this fully today, but it seems all part of a piece with at least one Trumpette who appeared on MN with a loud "I'm a feminist, me" schtick, and was oh so tenderly concerned about the rights of women... right up until it was her hero boasting about assaulting women.

In particular, there was a 30 page thread (now gone the way of all Chat threads) which she basically spammed with repetitive claims that Hilary was an evil anti-woman anti-Christ. Not advancing the discussion, just same message different words, post after post.

Then the 45 "pussy" recording came out and the Trumpette went very quiet.

She re-emerged a page or two on wanting to talk about her bath, shaving her legs, what to drink...

Nevertheless, I persisted.Wink So she switched to victim-blaming.

And she vanished Poof! the morning after the election.

This is one of the incidents I had in mind, when I mentioned a few weeks ago that I felt were people attempting to appropriate feminist concerns to "steer" discussion on MN.

GingerIvy · 06/03/2017 15:20

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Kelly is doing press briefing about new Travel ban Exec order at 11:30 today. For an admin that claimed time of essence,sure took their time

cozietoesie · 06/03/2017 15:23

You're not stupid at all, Dum. It's the situation.......

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:23

I hope nobody minds, and that I'm not treading on anyone else's toes, but at message 997, I've started a new thread on AIBU
Tap Dancing around the Truth with Trump - 44 days in for POTUS 45
I'm not very good at contributing or keeping up but I do like these threads!

AcrossthePond55 · 06/03/2017 15:31

Sorry, I'm missing something here? That's surely not what's happening? Is the above a joke?^

No joke Dum. I think the train of thought is that Trump shot his mouth off, demanding an investigation, without stopping to think exactly what it might uncover. IF there was a wiretap at Trump Tower, it was ordered by the FBI (and approved by FISA) because there was serious reason to believe that a 'foreign interest' (Russia) was interfering in the election process. If we assume this is true, then there is a high probability that the trail will lead directly back to Trump (or his campaign). And if it does lead back to Trump (or his campaign), chances are that it will be grounds for impeachment.

I guess it all depends on how many 'layers' are between Trump and the person who colluded with Russia and how many of them are willing to fall on their swords for him. That strategy didn't work all that well for Nixon. All it took was one person to sing like a canary.

What we need is another 'Deep Throat'. I know he/she's out there, full of information but possibly lacking the courage to make that first contact with the media or a sympathetic member of Congress. I can't say I completely blame them. In the Watergate era all Deep Throat had to worry about was disgrace and dishonour. These days they'll also be worrying about assassination.

Dumdedumdedum · 06/03/2017 15:39

Thanks, Across, I've got it now, great explanation. I should be used by now to Trump's odd take on things. But I'm not - hey, maybe that means I've not swept along by the alternative perception thing!

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