To think DD's punishment from PE teacher was draconian?

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DD is in Year 10 and came home quite annoyed about a punishment she got in PE for something very minor in the first place. Her teacher made her get changed into her PE kit at lunchtime (without any tracksuit in the cold wet weather), and run laps around the football pitch for all but the last 15 minutes of the break (so she could eat), much of it whilst the boys were having football practice, who apparently found it quite funny. Is it overreacting to think this is a bit out of order? I might not have been surprised when I was at school but I can't help be a bit annoyed, seems a bit like it was intended to embarrass her and unnecessary.

Using humiliation to punish a child does not teach respect

In fact I would say that teacher lost all respect for choosing such a punishment. I'd certainly not have any respect for them.

Seems fair enough considering the child's behaviour. The ridicule of the football players is all part of the punishment.

Sometimes a telling off isn't enough.

The teacher was a twat in several levels; punished twice fornone misdemeanour and madenit likely she'd not get lunch due to the length of the punishment.

However, your daughter needs to button her trap, she's there to learn not mouth off.

...that is not an appropriate punishment at all. I'm actually shocked so many think that's fine???

Topaz0117 is correct. I'd be asking to see the schools behaviour policy.
What punishment would she usually get if she was disruptive in any other class?

And not been out of high school long myself, I completely understand the embarrassment she'd have felt running alone, around the boys playing football in a only a gym skirt and t shirt.

Oh another AIBU thread that goes:

AIBU

Yes you are

No I'm not.

If your daughter behaved herself there would be no need for any type of punishment - whether it was one you found acceptable or one you found harsh.

Instead of venting on here or against the teacher perhaps explain to your daughter why she should not be disrupting the class.

Not every one on the thread thinks the OP is being unreasonable. So I don't know what you are on about,Allthebest.

perhaps explain to your daughter why she should not be disrupting the class

Oh FGS there are lots of people on here, me included, who think that the teacher was unreasonable. And the teacher is the PROFESSIONAL ADULT. I expect teachers to have higher standards than the kids, oddly enough.

The OP does not think her daughter is innocent! She does however think that the punishment was inappropriate, as do I for the reasons I gave above.

What a horrible attitude barinatxe that it's acceptable to ridicule anyone, despite their bad behaviour. And if that was the teachers intention that she should most definitely not be teaching!

Yes fairweathercyclist thank you. I really don't think a 14 year old girl having to run laps around a football pitch where boys of 15/16 are practicing and seemingly able to watch and laugh is appropriate.

I think she deserved to be punished in some way as any pupil who interupts and talks whilst the teacher is doing does. She doesn't do this often, by "lippy" I meant to concede she's no angel, I'm not deluded she does no wrong and does answer back sometimes rather than is constantly giving teachers backchat. I think punishing her in the lesson by making her sit by the side was probably fair enough, embarrassing but something she got herself into, and even coming back for 20 minutes or so at lunch to do the PE she missed would have been fair enough, it's the way this punishment seems to have been designed more to embarrass her in a needless way which I have an issue with.

In the OP's place I would check the school's discipline policy and write an email to the school to ask them to investigate, making the points above and referring to the discipline policy

Before going down the irate parent route, it may pay to find out if your daughter has told you the truth first.. Has she perhaps embilshed things, a teeny bit?
As well as being a bit lippy, your daughter may be a bit prone to exaggeration.

Or are you going to say I know my child. My child never lies!

Boys at school see girls in gym clothes all the time....it's hardly embarrassing or shameful!

Running isnt shameful either....or embarrassing.
The girl plays sport so it's note difficult to run.

I'm guessing that her behaviour at school might be worse than her behaviour at home.

I'd certainly find out if this is a first offence or the punishment is a "last chance" thing.

I think that it's highly unlikely that the teacher could find a private place for the punishment. (The field may be used daily for sport) Saturday detentions should only be for very serious offences.

sometimes a telling off is not enough

Funnily enough that's what my dp's father said when he was confronted about abusing his children.

How is making her do during a detention the stuff she would have been meant to be doing in the lesson physical punishment or humiliation?

It sounds like she was being a cheeky little madame and persistently disrupting the class.

The punishment fitted the crime. The fact that the boys were on the field is neither here nor there. She wasn't being made to run past them in the nude any more than they would have been playing football in the nude. She was appropriately dressed in PE kit.

Why is running humiliating?
Why is running in front of boys humiliating?

Being punished is humiliating but that ius her own fault.

Low level disruption is one of the biggest behaviour issues in schools.

Very odd though Gottagetmoving how boys are perfectly ok to watch girls running in very short skirts or shorts (incidentally at my school boys shorts were much longer than the girls) yet if a girl wore a skirt above knee height for school that's inappropriate.

Anyone who's been to high school know full well what a lot of those boys would have been looking at and saying!

Maybe contact the teacher and request that next time she mouths off she's given a punishment she enjoys.

Not sure where the poster above got the idea I think my daughter, or any of my children, are perfect from I think she deserved some form of punishment for talking back, which she got in the lesson.

As for those saying being made to run in front of boys isn't embarrassing, she's a 14 year old girl at a certain stage of life, has started to receive one or two comments in the street from men, it's just not something which sits too comfortably with me or her.

Had the PE lesson been on the field I would say it's OK for the teacher to make a child run laps during the lesson if they were misbehaving, however it is not appropriate to make her spend lunchtime doing it.

The school must have a published behaviour policy stating what sanctions are imposed and how they escalate. I'm pretty sure it would have a detention as the first level of punishment and will not have any sort of physical punishment. I would complain to her HOY because the school's behaviour policy has not been followed.

Those of you that think it was OK, would you think it was fine for a maths teacher to make a child run around the field?

If teachers are allowed to issue lunchtime detentions theb so be it. Thats what they did. She disrupted a pe lesson so the punishment should be relevant. Make up the rime soent causing disruption by extra pe.

Yes Emboo exactly, funnily enough that's also the case with my daughter's PE kit shorts compared to my son's. And yes, the laughs and comments were hardly something which should be part of a punishment for talking in class.

AllPizzas id expect them to issue extra maths.

The pe teacher issued extra pe.

He is hardly able to say :ok do extra hockey: with no team to play with!

But did she sit by the side on her own nicely without any attitude though?