London

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This is about London so no comments on how crap and expensive it is from non Londoners.

Aibu to get annoyed when people describe places that aren't London as London?
Sidcup and Bromley are in Kent!
Croydon is in Surrey!
Stratford is Essex!

Living in these areas is suburban. It's not living in London is very different it's suburban living.

Yes the tube map is huge just because it's on the tube doesn't make it London the metropolitan line goes to something like zone 6 I think it's further away than Brighton is the other way.

I'm not sure you picked the best example there to back up your point...

No, it proves my point perfectly. My point being that it is ridiculous to look at how random businesses categorise their branches.

I live in a London Borough. As far as I am concerned, that's the end of it.

Way back someone said that "London" really only means the city of London that would have been contained within the city walls. This is true. Everything else was simply annexed as London outgrew its walls and/or towns grew towards it.

Stratford is london.
I think anything inside the M25 (bar a few places), an 020 phone code and london waiting paid in your town is london.

Heathrow is a tricky one, its actual geographical point, no i don't think it is.

Kent makes me think of Tunbridge Wells and even down to places like Margate. They are most definitely Kent!

Isn't that the point? London makes most people think of capital city, not leafy suburbs of modern semis, where people have driveways for cars and love getting overdressed for a night out!

London makes most people think of capital city, not leafy suburbs of modern semis Not really I think most people think of London being the capital city and the surrounding area. If someone says they live in London I don't assume they live on Oxford Street. If they live in Kent I assume somewhere separated from London by some fields and farmland!

IamFriedSpam

Precisely. You summed up what I was trying to say!

Taking the example of Bromley- it's the London Borough of Bromley and is physically in the south-east of Greater London, although the postal address says Kent.

My point was that places like TW and Margate are what i think of when people say they live in Kent!

Not somewhere in Travel card zone 4!

And on a slightly pedantic point, isn't Sidcup in the London Borough of Bexley??!

People who live in it are going to think of it differently. Take Los Angeles do you think of Malibu, Beverley Hills and Santa Monica as being part of it, yet they cities in it own right part of Los Angeles county. People who live there classify it differently to those of us who look in, we think of them all as Los Angeles. Same is true of London

Ah you can't win- my family are originally from Vauxhall- and someone said "well that's not real London is it?" To my aunt! Seriously how much closer to the centre can you get!

I live in a London borough - zone 3/4 - def still London, but not central London. You only have to look at house prices to know you live in London!!!

I think some people think London is The City, the west end and the tourist attractions.

Vauxhall is one of those places which says London to me.

When you work in central London the zone talk is more to do with how long your commute is. If someone says they live in zone 6 it often means that deserve more sympathy as they have a longer more hellish journey!

Altho we live in Kent now and dh's commute is shorter in time than when we lived in Kew.

My parents recently moved from near Kew bridge/Chiswick roundabout and while they had a Tw8 postcode it was still considered London by absolutely everyone I've ever met.

Op you are delusional.

London is huge, city square mile, all of the gates, north south east west.

You need to clarify what your London is, Upminster for example was Essex pre 1962 but Greater London since.

Who are you to redraw the boundaries?

Alot of surrey is greater london now

Although the act was made law in 1963 the current London boroughs didn't come into being until 1965.

Not necessarily MrsKoala - I'm in z6 and I can do London Bridge in 25 minutes, Victoria in 16 and St Pancras in 35. Depends on the connections - the tube for example takes forever in my opinion - certainly wouldn't want to live at the outer reaches of the Central or Piccadilly lines.

I know, LB (as i said we are closer in Kent) but it's often said at work like a badge of martyring honour. 'Well i live in z6'. In reality i have found overland trains from z4-6 get me in quicker than bus/tubes from z3-4.

I lived in SE27 for a while and the biggest selling point was 'you can get somewhere better really quickly.'

It all depends on who or what you decide is important for your definition of London.

Think a bunch of Royal Mail administrators have the right to define it? Then go by postcode.

BT busy bods? Then it's 020.

TfL fare setters? By all means use zones.

If you think politicians and civil servants make the definition then yes, it's anyone in a London Borough of... (plus the two cities)

How about historical references? I have a friend who insists she is from Middlesex. You can't tell her that Middlesex doesn't exist any more. She is willing to admit that the political administrative area of Middlesex doesn't exist, but Middlesex itself has been around since the Middle Ages and she is not going to listen to a bunch of men in bad suits trying to tell her otherwise

londonrach it's actually only a tiny amount I.e those London boroughs on the edge of London which at one time were Surrey and now aren't - Croydon borough, Sutton borough, royal borough of Kingston upon Thames. Surrey is a pretty big county stretching out as far as Kent, Sussex Hampshire. The parts now adopted as London boroughs are a tiny percentage of that.

Middlesex doesn't exist any more

Yes, SE27 is a bit... nothing, in parts.

Years ago I worked in Victoria and managed to persuade my friends to get on a train to come to south east London for a party I held. They were all astonished at how quick and easy it was - and they were all bankrupting themselves to live on the tube and armpit surf to work each day. More fool them; I got a seat the whole way almost every day.

YABU

I find it completely bonkers that anyone should get aeriated about it. I can't help but think that's it's only arrivistes who care, does it bother anyone who was born/grew up in the London boroughs? I was born in and have lived in various parts of SE London, (and even briefly, shudder, in North London), from zones 2 to 6, and it's never crossed my mind to care who gets to say they're living in London. 'Course now I live 200 miles away it seems even more ridiculous that anyone would waste their time thinking about it.

Oh, and you can live in a city and a county at the same time. In some places you can even have different councils governing different bits of your infrastructure. So Bromley can be in both Kent and London, so there!