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We're only showing Ami the good news now to keep her sweet. It's another Trump thread!

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BiglyBadgers · 23/02/2017 14:29

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cozietoesie · 23/02/2017 22:37

Have there been tweets requesting his presence, Claws?

GingerIvy · 23/02/2017 22:44

Lee Gelernt‏*@leegelernt* 1m1 minute ago
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Gov FINALLY - gave us list of 746 people detained after #MuslimBan took effect, 3 weeks after the Court ordered them to do so

woman12345 · 23/02/2017 22:47

Ruth Bader Ginsburg on BBC2 news night right now.

Lweji · 23/02/2017 22:47

new Communications Director, Michael Dubke

Ahhh, was that the one?

I bet Spicer will welcome the help. :)

UnGoogleable · 23/02/2017 22:48

Oh you buggers you raced ahead on that previous thread didn't you.

This is an alternative placemark while we wait for Tango Bollocks to tweet again.

Lweji · 23/02/2017 22:55

There's a tweet!
There's a tweet!
There's a tweet!

It's by a staffer, though.

45 is still missing.

woman12345 · 23/02/2017 22:56

He's probably having this thread read to him.Grin

PausingFlatly · 23/02/2017 23:03

@WorshipTheGourd, Lweji has tried to do a brief update at Thu 23-Feb-17 20:01:00.

I'll try to expand, but have been struggling to keep track myself.

Did you get the bit where 45 flew to Florida and did a campaign rally (yes, you did read that right) in an aircraft hanger, complete with Ride of the Valkyries warm-up music, in which he referred to the dangers of terrorism and "look what happened in Sweden tonight".

Cue much puzzlement from Swedes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39020962

Um, what else?

Apparently a man in Kansas opened fire at some men he thought were Middle Eastern, apparently yelling “get out of my country”. They were high tech engineers from India: one person killed, two people injured. But no concern from the WH that this was a terror attack (shooter was white, if you couldn't guess).
www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article134459444.html

Also, someone from the White House (Pence or Priebus?) has publicly said they'll be releasing a new muslim-ban Executive Order which will have the same intent and effect as the previous one, but will get round whatever technical reasons the judges might have for halting the previous one. Since one of the ways in which the previous EO failed was... intent, by saying this, Pence/Priebus has probably shot down the subsequent EO. Which is nice.

Oh, and the Arizona senate is trying to pass a law to seize assests of people who attend or plan a demonstration where violence occurs, regardless of who did the violence (and maybe even if someone just believes violence may occur).
azcapitoltimes.com/news/2017/02/22/arizona-senate-crackdown-on-protests/

Also, 45 is expanding the list of who can be deported.

Sorry, I'm very dopey today so please do check the above - my summaries may not be accurate!

woman12345 · 23/02/2017 23:11

And this puts what's been happening in a historical context:
14 characteristics of fascism match pretty much what Pausing just summarised.
www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

cozietoesie · 23/02/2017 23:12

I remember listening to a Murdoch Exec in a documentary once - said he used to play the 'Ride of the Valkyries' to himself in his car whenever he had a meeting with Murdoch. It 'psyched him up'. Smile

SanFranBear · 23/02/2017 23:18

Warrior - the problem with an update is that so much stuff had happened, it is nigh on impossible to update.

I guess on Scrotus himself: taken 3 straight weekends at Mar A'Lago at a cost of approx $9m to the US taxpayer; held a yuge rally in Melbourne, attended by about 9,000 people which involved a lot of toadying, Melania reading the Lords Prayer and the man himself waffling on and on and on about everything and nothing whilst stating there has been a terror attack in Sweden when there hadn't; had his NSA resign due to ties with Russia despite still not releasing his taxes and showing the world he hasn't paid them for decades and has his own dubious links to Russia; gets at least one aide sacked for disagreeing with his agenda; declares a new travel ban will be drafted which will be bigger and better but do exactly the same thing; look repulsive; continue to brag about his election win at completely inappropriate times; held a press conference where he came across as bat shit scary with no clue what is happening and spouted a whole ton of lies and bullshit including completely shutting down a Jewish reporter asking for his take on the increase in anti-semitism in the US (some of my best family are Jews!); continued apace with the Dakota pipeline despite opposition; moaned some more about how long it's taking to appoint his Exec despite over 100 posts still being vacant in the actual organisations these nominees will run; went against decades of US foreign policy by considering a one state solution to Isreal... it just goes on and on!

You know what's worse - that's missing so so much and doesn't cover anything that Angry Spice has said, KellyAnne Conway has fucked up, in depth analysis about Russia or Steve Bannon or his ongoing conflicts of interests to his businesses or Melania or Ivanka. .

Your best bet is to block out a day and get reading Wink

AcrossthePond55 · 23/02/2017 23:19

DOJ will be "taking action" against states that have legalized recreational marijuana.

Oh, that's just super. Let's spend a gazillion dollars on arresting some poor schmoe who just wants to catch a buzz, or some poor cancer patient who just wants to feel comfortable after chemo.

Let's NOT spend a gazillion dollars investigating false claims, nepotism, bribery, harassment, and corruption on the part of the current regime.

"Look, a fish!!!!!!"

TheClaws · 23/02/2017 23:28

In the pic accompanying the latest tweet, of course Kushner is at his elbow. WHY WHY WHY WHY HOW HOW HOW? I saw another image on the POTUS feed of a "listening session" for manufacturers the other day and there he was again, and Ivanka too, right there at the table. How does Trump get away with this?

cozietoesie · 23/02/2017 23:30

Who is going to say 'No' to him, Claws?

cozietoesie · 23/02/2017 23:31

Within the WH at least.

Lweji · 23/02/2017 23:31

Tillerson and Kelly are on a difficult trip to Mexico, while being undermined or undermining their own President.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/23/rex-tillerson-john-kelly-mexico-trump-bad-dudes

cozietoesie · 23/02/2017 23:34

Ivana is still MIA is she? Smile

SenecaFalls · 23/02/2017 23:34

It appears the authorities have already been told not to bother themselves too much about domestic violence cases, so he's effectively at least half way down the road to making it a non-crime.

I'd be curious to know where this came from. The prosecution of domestic violence is almost wholly a state matter, so there is not really much any president can do to direct local law enforcement not to enforce the laws of their state.

On the other hand, it is possible to diminish assistance to victims of domestic violence by limiting or ending federal funding to shelters and other agencies who serve victims. There will still be other sources of funding, but federal grants are really an important dimension, especially for marginalized and underserved sectors.

PausingFlatly · 23/02/2017 23:36

Blardy hell. Surely history isn't supposed to repeat that quickly...

From the CNN article GingerIvy linked at 17 21:32:00, about the White House demanding the DHS and DoJ find evidence to support the travel ban.

"this is an assignment that has caused concern among some administration intelligence officials, who see the White House charge as the politicization of intelligence -- the notion of a conclusion in search of evidence to support it after being blocked by the courts. Still others in the intelligence community disagree with the conclusion and are finding their work disparaged by their own department."
edition.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/white-house-effort-to-justify-travel-ban-causes-growing-concern-for-some-intel-officials/index.html

Because the creation of a shadow intelligence service churning out exactly what the White House wanted to hear, produced such accurate assessments of Iraq's WMD capability and intentions under George W Bush. And led to such benign outcomes all round...

SinisterBumFacedCat · 23/02/2017 23:43

Unpatriotic placemarking. Sad.

PausingFlatly · 24/02/2017 00:07

Ew, that's really weird where Bannon tries to grab Priebus's leg during an interview or panel discussion.

twitter.com/KJAlvarado124/status/834847832112758789/video/1

What's even weirder is the way Priebus competently bats him away and moves on, without any apparent shock. As though he's used to Bannon pulling that kind of stunt.

Do they think they're kids in school, hitting each other under the desk or something?

SanFranBear · 24/02/2017 00:08

I heart Randy Rainbow... new take on The Book of Mormon Grin

m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=998839513551325&id=614736491961631

TheClaws · 24/02/2017 00:19

New DT tweet:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 15mins

Seven people shot and killed yesterday in Chicago. What is going on there - totally out of control. Chicago needs help!

TheClaws · 24/02/2017 00:21

Also

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 9mins

Big interview tonight by Henry Kravis at The Business Council of Washington. Looking forward to it!

SanFranBear · 24/02/2017 00:22

WTF Donald Angry