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We're only showing Ami the good news now to keep her sweet. It's another Trump thread!

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BiglyBadgers · 23/02/2017 14:29

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amispartacus · 24/02/2017 20:25

The great thing about these threads is that many Trump supporters don't know the full extent of his actions. When you tell them if they agree with certain things, it might have an effect on them.

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:29

Maggie HabermanVerified account‏*@maggieNYT* 1m1 minute ago
Hopefully this works, audio of Spicer gaggle this AM doc-0g-20-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/ha0ro937gcuc7l7deffksulhg5h7mbp1/3vqtpe1cg3p82cunlvfvnnts7c7tlnuk/1487966400000/13915682159730543690/*/0B4wGHomO3YBEQW5ndGJQbGQtZFE?e=download

originalbiglymavis · 24/02/2017 20:36

He's not awfully very well... [Hopeful]

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:37

wow. That audio is frightening. All Angry Spice making excuses, stating that if they're making accusations that the sources should be named.

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:38

This is definitely damage control and trying to get their own "spin" on everything going on right now. They're rattled.

He's saying FBI is saying story is false. FBI and other (reliable) sources say the story is not false.

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:42

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And now, the topic of the evening is the media outlets excluded, not the Priebus interactions w FBI + question of open investigation.

Destinysdaughter · 24/02/2017 20:43

Just read the this on Twitter:

I never understood the first line, "It was a bright cold day in April, andthe clocks were striking thirteen."

Now I do.

amispartacus · 24/02/2017 20:45

From the Washington Post

CNN's Sara Murray went on air to describe what happened:

We lined up. We were told there was a list ahead of time, which is sort of abnormal, but we put our name on a list. And then when we went to enter, I was blocked by a White House staffer, who said we were not on the list for this gaggle today.

Now, normally, if you were going to do something like this — an extended gaggle, off camera — you would have one person from each news outlet. As you know, we have multiple people from CNN here every day. So, if you're going to do something beyond a pool, which is sort of the smallest group of reporters that then disseminates the information, you would have one person from every news outlet.

That is not what the White House was doing today. What the White House was doing was handpicking the outlets they wanted in for this briefing. So Breitbart, the Washington Times, the One America News Network — news outlets that maybe the White House feels are more favorable were all allowed in, whereas I was blocked from entering, Politico was blocked from entering, the New York Times, the L.A. Times. All of these news outlets were blocked from going to a gaggle.

White House Correspondents' Association President Jeff Mason called in to CNN to say the organization is “still getting information about” the decision, addin

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:48

I'm sitting here listening to the audio feed of Angry Spice's "gaggle". Talk about a car crash. He's offended, the news media is insulting... blah blah

amispartacus · 24/02/2017 20:50

At what point do you leave your own country? When do you feel so uncomfortable with the politics and your own safety that you feel you ought to leave?

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:50

Angry Spice basically bitching at all the media because they are questioning the whole thing.....

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:50

Really very aggressive.

Destinysdaughter · 24/02/2017 20:55

I should set up a new dating site for all your pp who want to leave the U.S. Sort of like Russian Brides for disillusioned Yanks!

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 20:57

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Trump's quick deportation plan may be illegal, past immigration chiefs say usat.ly/2lDfnPq #NoBanNoWallNoRaids

cozietoesie · 24/02/2017 20:58

If .I were one of The Excluded - such as CNN - I'd roll with this. So they don't want to be reported? Officially?

CussingQuim · 24/02/2017 21:00

I imagine many Jews asked themselves the exact same thing a hundred or so years ago Ami.

CussingQuim · 24/02/2017 21:01

Makes you wonder if Hitler could have accomplished so much more with the help of the Internet.

Lweji · 24/02/2017 21:02

What happens when you ban news media? They run with their story and you don't get to give your side, as I suspect they'll quickly learn.
They also become martyrs to the opposition.
Well done Spicer.

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 21:03

Angry Spice made it pretty clear they said that they wouldn't tolerate media that reported "fake news" (things they don't like being reported) and needed to deal with that. I suspect this is going to continue.

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 21:04

Kurt EichenwaldVerified account‏*@kurteichenwald* 3h3 hours ago
Trump complained media failed to report line to see him was 6 blocks long. Same ppl who cast fraudulent votes and were at inaugural, I guess pic.twitter.com/5icB0ZPLpO

(pic shows lack of 6 block long queue Grin)

amispartacus · 24/02/2017 21:06

CNN is world famous. So is the NY Times and the Washington Post. Go to a hotel anywhere in the world and you get CNN.

Just like BBC. Does Trump not give a shit about the rest of the world?

cozietoesie · 24/02/2017 21:09

Not in any way you'd understand I suspect, ami.

cozietoesie · 24/02/2017 21:12

Meanwhile, the Chinese are just sitting on that ole river bank.

(I actually saw an OpEd piece from them the other day - more or less official - which ended with 'Let's wait and see'. )

GingerIvy · 24/02/2017 21:20

Scott DworkinVerified account‏*@funder* Feb 7
.Putins alleged gf-the 1st person she followed on instagram was Ivanka Trump-Kushhner bros were #5 & #6 #family

#dworkinreport #trumprussia pic.twitter.com/wTJF9WoyVB

Lweji · 24/02/2017 21:24

Also, if they ban some media from their press conferences those media will have to interview other people. Like people who don't like what Trump is doing.

They can't control news by banning media. They can by enforcing censorship. That is what I'm afraid of.

I live in a country that when I was born still had a secret police representative in each news media to screen what could and couldn't be presented. Sad