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My personal favourite from #lastnightinsweden

I rather liked the four plastic chairs.

This is a good article on the current views on Trump heartlands. They are absolutely following and believing everything he says. I don't think that will change anytime soon.

Welcome to Grant County Nebraska - where people love Donald Trump more than ever
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-voters-why-did-they-vote-grant-county-nebraska-a7588681.html

Bloody hell, I stay away from the computer for one day and you get half way through another thread already!!

Only very very slightly on topic - went to a 'closed borders' art exhibition today. The artist had brought back some of the barbed wire from the border fences on the edges of Europe and they are really scary looking - its not like the barbed wire I remember, instead of barbs there are what are basically mini razor blades attached to the wire. Can't imagine how painful it must be to try and get over those fences, and how desperate those immigrants must be.

Roussette

Well if they can't get them open again, you just know whose fault it's not going to be!

Jessicake, Funnily enough I lurk on these threads and the Archers ones and was just wondering if anyone else saw the parallels with Rob Titchener (on a huge, scary, real scale) - you're a mess, darling, but don't worry, you have me now - those friends of yours, you don't need them, they do you no good - look at me, look how great people think I am - it's not safe out there, you should stay at home, I'm here now and I'll make our home so perfect..

And it's easy to trick some people who might not know very much about the world outside their country.

I think this is key in understanding supporters of Trump. Many have little experience or understanding of the world outside the USA. He is feeding their fear of being attacked by the foreign people 'pouring in' to the country by talking about fake terrorist attacks when in fact they are more likely to be shot by some local with a gun.

Many have little experience or understanding of the world outside the USA

Remember Orson Wells and War of the Worlds?

I agree FarAway and guns is a vote loser whereas that nasty furriners is a winner with those who have little knowledge of anything beyond their town or county.

I good tweet from Michael Moore about why Trump's supporters won't care that the Sweden attack didn't exist, or rather what their thought process will be.

I've often felt, viscerally, that one of the issues, Far, is that the United States is so big. If you're standing in a vast open area, horizon all around you, it might be easier to think 'Oh - what's the odd nuke here or there' - as long as it's somewhere else. They may even believe - and I include 45 in this - that battlefield nukes are really just a sort of 'grown up cruise missile', not knowing the facts. The idea of a nuclear winter would be alien to them.

I think I'll turn to drink.

And a follow up...

Swirlingasong you might be interested in this interview with Rob Titchener in the Ambridge Observer

ambridgeobserver.blogspot.co.uk/2017_01_01_archive.html

And the messageboard in the latest issue

ambridgeobserver.blogspot.co.uk/2017_02_01_archive.html

Thank you for continuing to post "news from the outside," GingerIvy.

I'm finding it useful to keep perspective. I also don't plan to offer 45 his narcissist's wet dream of soaking up 100% of everyone's attention.

What's happening in the US is important. But the rest of the world is also important.

Nobody has told 45 that, sadly, Pausing.

Slightly off point, but you all might be interested in watching- SS GB (alternative history, hitler wins the war), starting on BBC 1 at 9pm. I didn't read the book (by Len Deighton) but DH says it's excellent.

I may be overly optimistic, but i think I am starting to notice a general shift in how people are dealing with him. It is like we are passing out of the 'hey he's just trump being trump' stage and into a new 'now we actually need to deal with this fucker' phase.

Remember on a previous thread the 14 possible Trump outcomes?

fivethirtyeight.com/features/14-versions-of-trumps-presidency-from-maga-to-impeachment/

I think the positive outcomes - he either changes and things turn out OK or he stays the same but things are still more or less OK are seeming less and less likely.

"Isn't this precisely the tactic abusive spouses (usually husbands) use when trying to convince people they are in fact the one being mal-treated? Smear their spouse (usually wife) to everyone they know so that when the spouse (wife) finally finds the courage to say she's leaving or tell someone about the abuse, she is doubted and made to look like the baddie and everyone believes the lying shit-sack of an abuser instead?"

Good point.
And Melania seems to be First Victim.

I wonder what the past few weeks have done for liquor sales - and others? I'm currently looking at a very nice island malt. Very nice indeed. Normally outside my price range but Hey Ho.

Sorry. That was in (indirect) reply to you, merry.

Re Michael Moore, I guess he has been studying this for years....

Does he have any advice?

I guess we need to listen to folk who have expertise in how Trump works. Understand the enemy tactics.

Roussette thanks, I think you're right, once closed, mines here and in US can't be re opened. I just think the trickery is so cruel, and so many of his supporters, really really trust him.

And he does 'trustworthy' well, not to us, we're not his demographic, but the GOP have a golden goose( as in he's as daft as one too),and his apparent daftness, needs careful handling, and an FDR type works programme ready to go for the next democrat government .

I don't know that we want to know how he works, Nevertheless. ( If indeed there's any rhyme or reason.) I think that his 'people' expected him to lose and make life uncomfortable for the Dems. Now, they have the tiger by the tail and are living the stuff of nightmares.

I see your point cozie.

If Bannon is the real President, is he not also massively out of his depth?