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It's a bigly Trump thread. Another beauty. But you don't need to know what's in it. I don't have to tell you. So there.

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amispartacus · 16/02/2017 22:37

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2855213-You-can-read-this-thread-anywhere-Even-in-a-Florida-resort-Its-a-secure-thread-Trump-cont

There was a press conference. It was interesting.

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GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 18:56

Jason Rabinowitz ‏*@AirlineFlyer* 20m20 minutes ago
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Jason Rabinowitz Retweeted Edward Russell
Did nobody tell Trump that the 787 is assembled using parts that are sourced and built globally?

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 18:57

Ssshhhh! Grin

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 18:57

AFP news agency ‏*@AFP* 10s10 seconds ago
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#BREAKING Blast in southeast Turkey kills 3-year-old, wounds 15: state media

woman12345 · 17/02/2017 18:57

Julian Clary would make a nice president.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 18:58

Mikel Jollett ‏*@Mikel*_Jollett now3 seconds ago
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The Obamacare debate-

DEMOCRATS: Physician, heal thyself.

REPUBLICANS: Poor people, fuck thyself.

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/16/upshot/republican-health-proposal-would-redirect-money-from-poor-to-rich.html?smid=tw-share

Lweji · 17/02/2017 18:58

Reaching a point where we could just put up a previous speech with all the right "catch phrases" in it, aren't we??

Definitely.

originalbiglymavis · 17/02/2017 19:00

Where are the hecklers? And you never hear anyone off camera muttering 'aw fuck off ya gobshite, yer talking bollocks' (mostly because I'm in the UK).

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:01

Leela Daou ‏*@leeladaou* 19m19 minutes ago
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Pres. Trump just said to buy American steel, something he didn't do.

europe.newsweek.com/how-donald-trump-ditched-us-steel-workers-china-505717?rm=eu

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 19:01

Thanks for that, Across. I'm just reading an article on California. I knew you were green in a major way, but I hadn't clicked just how wealthy and diverse a state you were. At the least, a secession vote would be useful to have in back pockets. At the least. Smile

AcrossthePond55 · 17/02/2017 19:04

I've just been listening to Trevor Noah talking on The View about his life as a child under Apartheid.

It gave me chills thinking about Trump and his ilk. Not so much apartheid based on race per se, as much as apartheid based on immigration status and/or economic status.

I'm NOT listening to Trump's latest PR campaign or Angry Spice's justifications. I just can't.

AcrossthePond55 · 17/02/2017 19:17

I agree, Cozie. Technically the Constitution doesn't provide for secession. For a 'legal' secession an amendment would have to be made to the Constitution to allow for it and provide a 'pathway'. This would require 2/3 of the states approval vote and would be very unlikely to happen for two reasons; Firstly, California is understood to be an economic 'necessity' to the US economy. You'd probably have some 'red' states approve it thinking "Fuck you California, you commie pinkos. Who needs YOU?" but I think 'cooler' heads would prevail. The second reason is that when an amendment is proposed, it automatically opens everything IN the constitution to revision. So you'd have people with agendas appending things to restrict our freedoms or change our laws by changing or proposing other amendments to the Constitution.

Which begs the question, what would Trump actually do if CA suddenly said 'We are no longer part of the US' and moved to close ports and borders using the CA Natl Guard? If federal offices and facilities were ordered to close and GTFO of CA? Would he actually order the military in CA to move against us? Scary thought!

Personally I'd like to see the 'United Republic of the Pacific' comprising CA, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii. Now THAT would be paradise!

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 17/02/2017 19:24

the old days when i made a speech i got paid a lot of money,now I have to do it for free. but i love it.

No you don't, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it. I'm guessing that being POTUS is really cramping orangeDonnie's style and losing him income. Ha ha ha.

Personally I'd like to see the 'United Republic of the Pacific' comprising CA, Oregon, Washington, and Hawaii. Now THAT would be paradise!

I'd holiday there if it wasn't part of the US.

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:27

Across Yep - big battle for freedom, then go to Disneyland.... because you have it there. hahahaha Grin

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:29

Yes, I have to agree that he appears to be getting irritated that being President isn't the fun gig he thought it was going to be.

I suspect that he thought it was going to be like Mel Brooks in History of the World... you know... "it's good to be the king!"

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:29

and yes, I know I fully outed my age with that reference. Grin

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 19:30

illegitimate

If you were really cynical - which I'm sure you're not Wink - you might suggest that he was already rehearsing defences to questions about the cost of the Florida weekends. Smile

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:30

The New York Times ‏*@nytimes* 2m2 minutes ago
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Another Breitbart News alum has been appointed to advise President Trump, and his name is Sebastian Gorka

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/us/politics/dr-sebastian-gorka.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:32

John Schindler ‏*@20committee*

#Natsec columnist @observer, security consultant
Formerly NSA, NAVSECGRU, NWC.
4h4 hours ago
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So, the WH is bating MSM with fake stories which they run in order to discredit them.

There's a word for that....in Russian.

#provokatsiya

BiglyBadgers · 17/02/2017 19:33

Awesome speech typing skills there ginger. I had to go and sort some stuff so your type up was very handy to quickly catch up, much appreciated Grin

This sounded much less of a disaster than the last one (based on reading gingers notes so could be mistaken) and it stuck mainly to the things that go over best with the core voters. I think they primed him for this one and put an autocue up to try and prove he could deliver a coherent speech after yesterday. A desperate damage limitation attempt. I imagine them making him rehearse over and over and promise to stay on script Hmm

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 19:33

Oh Dear

He's a friend of Bannon? Two months if he's lucky.

cozietoesie · 17/02/2017 19:34

A Russian word, Ginger? Wink

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:38

Newsweek ‏*@Newsweek* 2m2 minutes ago
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Moscow is not thrilled with Defense Secretary James Mattis's comments at NATO HQ bit.ly/2lTnYAr

SafariSoGood · 17/02/2017 19:38

Thanks for the speech reporting Ginger my DC decided they wanted o eat.

Lweji · 17/02/2017 19:39

and yes, I know I fully outed my age with that reference.

You can't be much older than me. :)

GingerIvy · 17/02/2017 19:40

Bigly glad it helped. Yes, better presentation this time, but it was definitely scripted, and you could tell the MOMENT he stepped off script.

cozie Yes, I suspect as he's ex military, he thought perhaps Trump and co. would recognise the word. Grin