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This thread will see you in court.Again. Trump watch

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amispartacus · 12/02/2017 09:00

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2850730-She-was-told-to-be-quiet-Nevertheless-she-persisted-Trump-cont

I wonder when this thread will fill up.

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peaceout · 12/02/2017 11:56

I wonder if he wants to go Duterte on the drug dealers?

Rather at odds with the increasing tolerance to cannabis iin the USA

TuckersBadLuck · 12/02/2017 12:04

peaceout he's using 'illegal' as shorthand of 'illegal immigrants': "The crackdown on illegal [immigrants who are] criminals is merely the keeping of my campaign promise."

BiglyBadgers · 12/02/2017 12:05

Well, I for one am awfully glad he isn't cracking down on all those legal criminals Hmm

TuckersBadLuck · 12/02/2017 12:05

...shorthand for not 'of'.

Destinysdaughter · 12/02/2017 12:08

They could use Dennis Leary for Kellyanne!

radioalice.cbslocal.com/2017/02/02/denis-leary-agrees-that-he-does-look-like-kellyanne-conway/

Lweji · 12/02/2017 12:09

I love Baldwin as Trump, but if they could get Rosie to play Trump, he'd probably explode.
Grin

peaceout · 12/02/2017 12:15

Thanks for putting me straight Tucker!

illegitimateMortificadospawn · 12/02/2017 12:23

I can't be the only one disappointed that we didn't get Rosie O'Donnell as Bannon last night?

Nope, same here.

TuckersBadLuck · 12/02/2017 12:23

What isn't clear is whether he's referring to illegal immigrants who are criminals because they're also drug dealers, rapists and murderers etc., or people who are 'criminals' because of the fact that they're illegal immigrants.

peaceout · 12/02/2017 12:28

I suppose its a deliberate conflation of the two so that illegal immigrants become synonymous with gangsters and drug dealers in peoples minds?

Lweji · 12/02/2017 12:29

About California:

Who'd be sanctioned: children and elderly who need state support!

Someone suggests California should build a wall alongside its border. Grin

Lweji · 12/02/2017 12:32

illegal immigrants become synonymous with gangsters and drug dealers in peoples minds?

Yes.

There was a sickening Hannity show with Trump basically passing on the idea that illegal immigrants were murderers. You'd have thought that only illegal immigrants were capable of killing innocent people, from that show.
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Lweji · 12/02/2017 12:37

Perhaps people should ask in the US, which are the most prosperous states? Are they more liberal or conservative? Which protect their vulnerable and accept immigration better?

That should be a good guideline about the best strategy for development.

PausingFlatly · 12/02/2017 12:40

I think the elision goes further than that.

In the chatter about the Muslim ban, I noticed people using "illegal immigrant" as a synonym for "immigrant".

So immigrant = illegal immigrant = murderers and gangsters.

People who, if they stopped to think, would disagree with that premise, will find themselves bundling all those ideas up together precisely because they DON'T stop to think. And anyway, it's not immigrants like them and Aunt Lucy and nice Mr Sven at the school.Hmm

yeOldeTrout · 12/02/2017 12:44

Ooh, I'd love Denis O'Leary as Conway. I really hope someone pursues that. It also removes her female ness from all the parodies. Her bubbleheaded fantasy manner wouldn't be fem or male, just KC.

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 12/02/2017 12:51

I was out with a good friend last night and she told me her cousin who is originally from Pakistan puts 'White British' on her forms. It's almost as if some people denounce their roots instead of embracing the intricacies of who they are because they want to fit into a neatly defined group. I have an American Iraqi friend on Facebook whose page is covered with Trump banners, pictures of him in the stupid 'Make America Great Again' baseball cap. The only explanation I can come up with is he's hoping if he's on the 'winning' side, when kids side with a school bully, the bully won't come for him.

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 12/02/2017 12:53

Should say: Like when kids side....

GrouchyKiwi · 12/02/2017 13:00

Re echo chambers and Facebook: this is fascinating from the WSJ. graphics.wsj.com/blue-feed-red-feed/

Elendon · 12/02/2017 13:05

So loving Dennis/Kelly Ann. Smile

Now of course Japan is an ally, 100%. Puts the UK's special relationship into focus.

peaceout · 12/02/2017 13:07

The only explanation I can come up with is he's hoping if he's on the 'winning' side, when kids side with a school bully, the bully won't come for him

Aligning oneself with those who are in positions of power is common strategy, it will probably keep you safe in the short term, whether it is effective in the long term will dependent on a variety of factors which can be difficult to measure and predict

PausingFlatly · 12/02/2017 13:11

About a year after 9/11, I visited friends in the US. My friends were white Commonwealth immigrants. Their neighbours were Chinese immigrants. The only house on the street with US flags (YUGE FLAGS!) was the one belonging to immigrants from Pakistan.

Friend reckoned they were scared of not appearing patriotic enough.

borntobequiet · 12/02/2017 13:12

My Sunday gym session is enhanced by BBC News' excellent Dateline London chaired by Gavin Esler. Today's has an insightful comparison of Trump with African dictators such as Idi Amin.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006m93g/episodes/player

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 13:14

I don't think for a moment that the actual FLOTUS posted that.

GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 13:16

Recent tweets. Most recent on top.

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After two days of very productive talks, Prime Minister Abe is heading back to Japan. L
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While on FAKE NEWS @CNN, Bernie Sanders was cut off for using the term fake news to describe the network. They said technical difficulties!
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72% of refugees admitted into U.S. (2/3 -2/11) during COURT BREAKDOWN are from 7 countries: SYRIA, IRAQ, SOMALIA, IRAN, SUDAN, LIBYA & YEMEN
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Donald J. Trump ‏****@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago
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The crackdown on illegal criminals is merely the keeping of my campaign promise. Gang members, drug dealers & others are being removed!
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GingerIvy · 12/02/2017 13:17

I have to wonder about the fact that while at his FL place, the phones can't be secured..... can they? WH has recordings, etc. FL? Doubtful. Which means he can contact who he wants without interference. Hmm

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