To be ashamed of the Labour Party leadership

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Long term member, did not support Corbyn, but even I am surprised by quite how bad he's been.

Where is the opposition? I get that Brexit is difficult, but where is Labour on the collapse of the NHS, the explosion of homelessness, the decimation of local council funding and the ticking bomb that is school funding?

Why is it that we now look to the Lords, the Cof E and petitions to be the opposition?

Shocking state of affairs.

I think Zoe Williams is trying to work out if we can have Corbyn's policies without Corbyn. I don't think it's an unreasonable question, though I agree that there is no hope of fundamental reform of policy (or even clarity) while he is in change.

Still, at least she's honest enough to admit she was wrong about JC.

yes pre-JC I liked her writing and agree it takes guts to admit she mis-judged him. I was never a fan of his but even I didn't appreciate the utter lack of respect he had for the middle ground voters or the PLP.

Yes she misjudged him terribly she felt he provided what Blair didn't optimism to who excatly

But she is still misjudging the public the public they are not only rejecting Corbyn they are rejecting a left wing Labour Party

The party has to move more to the centre to have any chance of winning an election

I agree, it isn't unreasonable - but I think she showed terrible judgement by backing him given what we already knew about JC (and what we knew was coming - Trident, EU ref, and a threat from UKIP in traditional Labour territory) and so I don't really trust her political judgement now. I don't think her article acknowledges the scale of the catastrophe, the incompetence/incoherence and the enabling of a hard Brexit.

I do not think a party split is the right thing to do. History repeating itself and it failed utterly last time with the SDP.

What will happen is that the Lib Dem and Labour vote will be diluted even further. Of course, the Conservatives want this - it plays right into their hands.

I know it's been a while but I had to come back and say FFS! JC's response to that budget was pathetic and now we have Tory back benchers acting as the official opposition. Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse ...