She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

[amispartacus]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

As promised

Interesting article on Trump and foreign policy...how his campaign rhetoric has come up against the harsh realities...

www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/us/politics/trump-foreign-policy-quickly-loses-its-sharp-edge.html

Attitudes towards
China and Taiwan (one China policy)
China and Japan (islands)
Iran
Israel settlements

I think he's realising it's more complex than 140 characters

Haha, excerpt from SNL. So funny!

mobile.twitter.com/riotwomennn/status/830651850588377089/video/1

WOW!

8 years in jail for voting illegally.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/11/republican-green-card-holder-who-voted-illegally-in-texas-gets-8-years-in-prison

What resulted, he said, was an unnecessarily harsh prison sentence that dwarfed punishments most people receive. Birdsall, a former public integrity prosecutor in Dallas County, said he never filed a voter fraud charge in five years.

“These charges are exceedingly rare,” he said, citing one past case in which a Houston-area group was sentenced to three years in prison after they listed a hotel as their residence in an effort to sway a local election.

“They were doing some shenanigans that needed to be punished,” Birdsall said, of the other case. He said Ortega, who only obtained a sixth-grade education, did not intend to commit a crime.

Birdsall said Ortega will probably be deported after serving her sentence because she will be a convicted felon. He plans to start an online crowdfunding page for Ortega, a single mother of four children ages 13 to 16.

They also plan to file an appeal, though the conviction is unlikely to be overturned, he said.

Trump's tweets about Ivanka are odd.

I don't know much about her clothing line, but my impression would be that it is quite difficult to boycott for anybody who is male/doesn't wear dresses and heels to work/has a small clothes budget because they wouldn't buy it anyway.

However, what the brand seems to be selling is Ivanka's lifestyle as portrayed in her Instagram feed. Now that is all inextricably linked to her father's politics and characters like Bannon.

Of course it's struggling. Plenty of people sell shoes that don't have any associations with Trump.

I understand that any parent wants to protect their child, but Trump has deliberately chosen to create division which is inevitably going to alienate much of Ivanka's customer base and damage her brand.

ami, and apparently, irony of ironies, she is a republican!

merry did you mean Democrat?

merry

Ortega did not vote in the 2016 presidential election, her attorney, Clark Birdsall, told The Washington Post by phone on Saturday

Ortega was a registered Republican who had been voting for more than a decade, he said. On her voter application, Ortega was faced with only two options — to mark herself as a ‘citizen’ or a ‘noncitizen’ — and didn’t know better, he added.

Birdsall said Ortega has voted in five elections since 2004, each time casting only a single ballot. Ortega voted for Mitt Romney in the 2012 presidential election and then — somewhat ironically — for Ken Paxton for Texas attorney general in a 2014 Republican primary runoff. Paxton would go on to win and, less than three years later, deal the eight-year sentence to Ortega.

“It’s a single vote that she’s casting” each time, Birdsall said. “The fact that she got eight years is off the rails.

Oops, maybe not clear what I was talking about - Ortega is a republican.

Wow finally caught up with thread. Thank you to all those who keep posting.
Saw this on Twitter , would be great if it is true but not surprised. Is this twitter account for real , I think it probably is.

White House staffer‏ @AngryWHStaffer
The President keeps telling everyone he "hates this job". Says he never should've run.
4:00 am · 12 Feb 2017

Hates this job? Give it to bloody Hillary then...

I don't think we should give much or any credence to those rogue accounts, as they are all unverified. They do make for entertaining reading, mind.

Zebra how awful :(

8 years in jail for Ortega? bloody hell.

New thread....

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2852511-This-thread-will-see-you-in-court-Again-Trump-watch

The closest comparison I can think of is Samantha Cameron's job at Smythson. However, she was an employee, not the embodiment of the brand, and Cameron never did anything to offend its target market.

I've never thought he wanted the job. He just wanted to win. Same as the travel ban, it's gone beyond what is best for the country, he's just pissed off that he lost. So he'll try and find a new way to win, a loophole.

Being president was never about serving the people to him, he just wanted to be president.

Ahh posted too soon and now I've completely contradicted myself!

Meh, you know what I mean.

As your clearly baiting and haven't read my previous posts. here is something for you to read

@Justanotherlurker,
Unfair accusation, was not baiting. These threads are very long & move very fast so I didn't want to struggle with searching. Thanks for those stories, I had not heard of a single one. Whereas my son routinely tells me that Hillary Clinton deliberately made people die at Bengahzi. He knows it's true.

There sure are fake news all around and many people are taken by them.
However, the main problem is that some political groups seem incapable of presenting anything other than fake news.

Three examples retweeted by small numbers of people are hardly significant when the very current administration presents fake "facts" daily. Often several times in the same speech. And get millions of likes and retweets.

And anyone that comes to argue that the left "also presents a small amount of fake news, retweeted by a few thousand", is definitely baiting and we should ask ourselves to what purpose.