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She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

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amispartacus · 09/02/2017 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

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Justanotherlurker · 11/02/2017 20:17

However, if you use 'fake news' only to mean people who deliberately set up fake news sites for money, Jestin Coler claims that democrats just aren't profitable. It's true that fake news stories about Trump have circulated, but they get skewered far more quickly.

Re framing the argument as just for money doesn't negate that fake news is rampant on the left and right, the canary is surviving and widely spread throughout social media, sites www.rawstory.com/(like this) are getting posted in this thread.

yeOldeTrout · 11/02/2017 20:25

Lurker, do you want to give 3 links to fake left wing news?

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 20:29

Elizabeth Windsor ‏*@Queen*_UK 4h4 hours ago
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#ENGvWAL Winner gets a trade deal with the US; Loser gets a State Visit from Trump.

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merrymouse · 11/02/2017 20:34

You should point out when an article or story is incorrect - other people have.

As far as I can see the Canary is widely ridiculed and Corbyn isn't particularly popular on Mumsnet. However, this is a thread about Trump. I don't think he is particularly concerned about the Canary.

I'm not trying to reframe the argument, but the phrase 'fake news' does now seem to be used quite vaguely. Again, fake news and media bias aren't the same thing, but bias in all forms of media has been discussed at length on this thread.

Justanotherlurker · 11/02/2017 20:40

Lurker, do you want to give 3 links to fake left wing news?

As your clearly baiting and haven't read my previous posts. here is something for you to read

www.newstatesman.com/politics/media/2017/02/fake-news-problem-left-too

Before you start trying to put this magazine into the "right" sphere, bear in mind that for every breitbart there is the canary , you trying to score points isn't understanding the overall argument.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 20:47

USA TODAY ‏*@USATODAY* 5m5 minutes ago
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"The rash of these recent reports about ICE checkpoints and random sweeps and the like — it is all false” usat.ly/2lvNAmA

www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/02/11/immigrant-communities-fearful-after-hundreds-arrested-what-feds-call-routine-surge/97786276/?hootPostID=6ca327ec7fd0499a56125c306179301e

ICE says it's not a concerted effort and not due to Trump, but then says it's part of an operation and they're allowed to take anyone even without a criminal record and that it's due to Trump's recent EO. Contradictions.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 20:48

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 3s3 seconds ago
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The Federal Election Commission has just put Trump in a bind

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-evidence-federal-electoral-commission-new-hampshire-ellen-a7574751.html

SenecaFalls · 11/02/2017 20:52

They just plain don't like the North.

I know the discussion has moved on but I just wanted to address this. As a Southerner and a boomer, I just don't think this is a true statement for most of the South these days. As Across suggested, the South is much more global and sophisticated through technology and other advances than, say, even 25 years ago. And much of the internal migration in the US has been to the South (I'm married to a transplanted Yankee, for example), which has resulted in much greater cultural diversity.

Justanotherlurker · 11/02/2017 20:56

"Again, fake news and media bias aren't the same thing, but bias in all forms of media has been discussed at length on this thread."

Fake news and bias are becoming synonymous, the fact the MSM are actually covering this proves the point I was making earlier, Corbyn may not be popular now but he sure as hell was a couple of months ago, that is undeniable...

And it wasn't so long ago that Canary links was posted on here as confirmation or to start threads about the "evil tories/brexit", lets at least be honest of the "proud left leaning" of the site we are on

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 20:57

MSNBC ‏*@MSNBC* 9m9 minutes ago
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President Trump threatens to "defund" California on.msnbc.com/2l1oP16

saffronwblue · 11/02/2017 20:57

Feel quite dizzy when I look at EP's fb page and see the tone of his supporters. It's hard stepping out of the echo chamber!
Keep picturing the dinner conversation with the Abes. I bet EP just randomly lurches from topic to topic, all about himself while Melania sits with a frozen smile not eating, and the Abes try not to sneak glances at their watches.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:23

Washingtonian ‏*@washingtonian* 20h20 hours ago
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Exclusive: White House Interviewing Candidates for Press Secretary

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:23

CBS News ‏*@CBSNews* 4m4 minutes ago
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Planned Parenthood protests drew both abortion-rights foes and supporters across the U.S. on Saturday cbsn.ws/2kxo5NT

saffronwblue · 11/02/2017 21:24

Just what they denied.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:24

Huffington Post ‏*@HuffingtonPost* 4m4 minutes ago
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Snowden is actually happy about report that Russians may turn him over to Trump huff.to/2kdjpAI

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:24

Independent US ‏*@IndyUSA* 8m8 minutes ago
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Immigration raids are spreading fear and panic after Trump's crack down order ind.pn/2l4MIVa

Deejoda · 11/02/2017 21:34

however you want to spin it, it isn't a left "good", right "bad" issue
Did anyone argue this point at all?

Do we know where those detained in the ICE raids are being housed and how quickly they are being processed?
Also, has SNL been on yet? I am waiting for the next installation with bated breath

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:43

Matt Viser ‏*@mviser*

Deputy Washington Bureau Chief for @BostonGlobe
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Kelly Ayotte and Donald Trump could have each requested a statewide recount in New Hampshire for a mere $500. Neither did.

PausingFlatly · 11/02/2017 21:44

Blimey. My brain is melting trying to compute the dynamics around Snowden: who wants him where for what, and what they're likely to do next.

Mind you, my brain is melting trying to keep up with these threads. [lightweight]

cozietoesie · 11/02/2017 21:44

I hear what you say, Seneca - and I'm sure that there are both more eg general mobility and some promising examples of individuals. I think that you have to bear in mind the 'heartland' though. The Confederacy was both desperately bitter and fairly recent. EP's supporters are content to tap into certain elements of that - the effect of other elements are less clear to me.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:45

Nada Bakos ‏*@nadabakos*

Former CIA Analyst 2000-2010
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Nada Bakos Retweeted Yashar
Relying on a dictator to tell us who is and isn't a terrorist - shall we call North Korea next and ask who should have nuclear weapons?

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GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:45

New York Times World ‏*@nytimesworld* 27s28 seconds ago
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Erdogan curbs criticism of Trump, seeking warmer relationship nyti.ms/2l5MzAQ

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:46

CNN ‏*@CNN* 4m4 minutes ago
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3,000 people from the seven countries listed in President Trump's travel ban have entered the US in a 2-day span cnn.it/2lBavcm

cozietoesie · 11/02/2017 21:47

effects

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 21:48

ABC News ‏*@ABC* 12s12 seconds ago
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Policeman killed during anti-government protests in Baghdad; seven other officers, dozens of protesters injured abcn.ws/2l0E0aJ