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She was told to be quiet. Nevertheless she persisted...Trump cont...

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amispartacus · 09/02/2017 22:24

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2849038-The-most-unreported-thread-ever-Trump-thread-9

As promised

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Lweji · 11/02/2017 10:10

Lweji There's already been talk of it. California seceding, I mean.

Which is why I mentioned it.

Yes, I bet it would suit GOP.

And it's the only explanation for alienating California, who's subsidising most of the rest of the US.

Great take on Patriot Barbie's tactics.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 10:19

This just sums up my thoughts at the moment.

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amispartacus · 11/02/2017 10:22

I seem to remember that historically 'states' rights' have been quite a contentious issue in the US

I got this....

West Wing,

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amispartacus · 11/02/2017 10:29

This just sums up my thoughts at the moment

That is the kind of nudge photo. Mums are going to be much more worried about their children and education, access to health than the threat from terrorism.

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GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 10:33

Implying that I'm being "nudged"?? Hmm

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 10:40

The Times of London ‏*@thetimes* 5s5 seconds ago
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GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 10:44

Delusional.

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amispartacus · 11/02/2017 10:45

Implying that I'm being "nudged

No - it's a great photo to nudge Trump supporters with towards doubt.

Challenging Trump supporters.

"So you are concerned about your children and want them to have a better education?"

Yes

"You think that the job of a President is to keep children safe and to give them a better future"

Yes

As a mom of young children, does it concern you that Trump has elected someone who has no experience in public education and is unaware of current educational issues to lead this country on education?

Just little nudging. Tap away at people's doubts.

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Destinysdaughter · 11/02/2017 10:53

Haha loved watching Piers Morgan being told to fuck off!!

amispartacus · 11/02/2017 10:53

Now this is interesting - an article on internment in WW2.

lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/rarely-seen-photos-japanese-internment-dorothea-lange/

The order, which presumed that Japanese-Americans were disloyal and potentially traitorous, was meant to protect the country’s most vulnerable assets, including airports, power plants, railroads, shipyards and military installations, from sabotage and spying. As enacted, the order was unambiguously racist: While it also applied to German and Italian nationals, they were spared the indignity of mass incarceration and were instead evaluated on a case-by-case basis.

Within weeks of the executive order, Japanese-Americans were ordered to secure or sell their houses, liquidate their businesses and abandon their work or studies. They were told to report to “assembly centers” with only the basic necessities — clothes, bed linens, toiletries and essential personal effects — they could carry. Pets were forbidden. Major household items were stored by the federal government, but at the owners’ risk.

“Despite the yawning gap between prewar generations and those born after the war,” the historian and artist Patricia Wakida wrote in the preface to the groundbreaking anthology “Only What We Could Carry: The Japanese American Internment Experience,” “there is nevertheless an unnerving familiarity to many of the dark themes running through this book. The neighbor who watches from a safe distance, the church employee who tries to make the best of a horrible situation, the racist politician whose vitriol fires up others with hated, the anguished apologist who accepts egregious injustice as necessity, the victim who blames himself such voices are still heard today. … The targets have changed, but the themes have remained constant.”

I wonder why the NY Times decided to write that article now.

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GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 10:58

ami ok I see. Sorry. Clearly I misunderstood.

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 11:01

Chaffetz said the crowd that filled the auditorium at Brighton High School in Cottonwood Heights and spilled over into a protest outside included people brought in from other states to disrupt the meeting.

"Absolutely. I know there were," he said, suggesting it was "more of a paid attempt to bully and intimidate" than a reflection of the feelings of his 3rd District constituents.

Asked who would foot the bill to fill the audience with outside agitators, Chaffetz said, "do some reporting" and described how one participant made it a point to say he was not being paid by a national Democratic organization.

What. A. Loon.

CaveMum · 11/02/2017 11:04

Don't know if anyone saw this on @RoguePOTUSStaff twitter feed last night.

Took me a while to spot it, but if you look at the left of the picture there is a document bag with a key in it on the desk. As the picture says, Rule One of handling classified material is you don't just leave the key in the bag! Particularly as people without security clearance have access to the room!

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GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 11:05

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originalbiglymavis · 11/02/2017 11:06

Wasn't it admitted that some people attending pro-trump rallies during the campaign were paid?

Formerpigwrestler9 · 11/02/2017 11:06

the racist politician whose vitriol fires up others with hated
Tangential to your post I know but I feel this is a key theme, there is always an undercurrent of racism, xenophobia, misogyny because these stem from knee jerk tendencies

Natsku · 11/02/2017 11:18

The size and cost of the President's security detail is just insane - why does he need so many?! I'm not even sure that the Finnish President has any bodyguards except for travelling abroad.

originalbiglymavis · 11/02/2017 11:20

You need to ask why he needs so much security?

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 11:22

The Telegraph ‏*@Telegraph* 23s23 seconds ago
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White House denies reports it is interviewing for a replacement press secretary

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FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 11/02/2017 11:22

I read somewhere, can't remember where, that the security costs to look after Melania Trump cost more than the total amount the government spends on benefits for the unemployed

PausingFlatly · 11/02/2017 11:24

BBC article this morning on a Russian-funded "news agency" with a branch in Edinburgh, called S p u t n i k.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38936812

(Not linking directly so as not to boost its ranking.)

It's producing a good line in pro-Russia, pro-Trump material, like "7 ways the EU-NATO Axis is Sabotaging Western Civilisation", and "Americans 'Don't Buy' Media Criticism of Trump Following Years of Pro-Obama Bias".

Nice set of button-pushing terms in the UK editor's interview: their critics are indulging in "conspiratorial thinking", "lack a positive agenda", and the editor hopes that Sputnik will reach Westerners disaffected by the mainstream media.

I've had a look at the "EU-NATO axis" article, supposedly an independent blog post by someone with a slightly Scottish name. The labels SputnIk apply to their critics are spot on for their own blogger - lack of positive agenda, conspiracy theorist bingo: he claims the refugee crisis is all a NATO plan to conquer and rule Russia and the Slav peoples through thousands of Ethnically Other rulers, directed by Germany.

Interestingly, the sentence structure and spelling are mostly OK and the tone lacks passion, despite the highly emotive idea-soup which basically boils down to "the forriners are coming, everything in the world is about attacking Russia, and NATO is bad, bad, bad: please please ditch NATO."

Unlike the blogger, I haven't fabricated anything here; however clearly I'm editorialising in my tone and others may feel differently about the site.

But looking at what the messages actually are, and who's funding it, I don't feel the urge to add it to my required reading...

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 11:24

The security detail must be immense - for him, his wife, all his children, and presumably their children.....

GingerIvy · 11/02/2017 11:25

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CaveMum · 11/02/2017 11:26

It's always been that way Natsku, everyone in the President's immediate family gets a protection detail, and the President also keeps a smaller detail for life when he leaves office. Plus the White House Chief of Staff and the VP also get their own detail while in office.

I guess they consider him the most high profile "target" in the world so throw a total ring of steel around him.

I read an article on the BBC website last year about travelling with the Press Pool on Air Force zone, and the security measures they have to go through:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-36111865

SafariSoGood · 11/02/2017 11:31

Wasn't it admitted that some people attending pro-trump rallies during the campaign were paid?

Yes, it's like lots of the things they accuse the opposition of - the reason they can is because they have done it themselves.

We'll probably see in the future, evidence to support the fact that the GOP bussed in illegal voters.

Love the video upthread of 'explaining Conway speak'.