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Don't put the phone down on this thread. Treat it with respect. It's the official Trump thread 8

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amispartacus · 02/02/2017 19:39

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2843068-The-official-Trump-thread-Its-true-It-is-No-its-not-The-President-said-it-is

Just to remind you that Trump put the phone down on had a heated conversation with the Australian PM

Has put Iran on notice

Threatened UC Berkeley with withdrawal of funds if they 'promote violence'

Said something about troops and Mexico

Sean Spicer currently lying talking to the press corps

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woman12345 · 03/02/2017 20:37

I think he sees it all as ratings, no matter what people post.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 20:38

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On a core issue "zero rating" favoritism Trump's FCC just dropped any pretense of caring about net neutrality.

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Weedsnseeds1 · 03/02/2017 20:39

If I had to guess on the Louvre attacker, then maybe North African, but could be from anywhere. No doubt if he is actually from a Muslim country it will be made a meal of Sad.
On the plus side, according to the Germany Second video, we have Spain, Finland, Estonia and Austria to look forward to.

Destinysdaughter · 03/02/2017 20:39

Yes I'm sure someone with such s big ego must find it galling. Maybe his advisors are keeping them from him to stop him declaring war on most of Europe...

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 20:40

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BoreOfWhabylon · 03/02/2017 20:40

The Mail is reporting that the Louvre attacker is Egyptian and had "only been in the country for a week"...?

Oh, and I really don't think Claig is/was an astroturfer - she's been around for years. I rather liked her, although she did get increasingly frothy as the Trump threads went on. Other, newer, posters around election, Brexit vote and recently definitely suspicious though.

Not sure if Claig ended up getting banned.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 20:40

Ah...interesting.....

The Associated Press ‏*@AP* now11 seconds ago
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French prosecutor: Louvre attacker near death, believed to be Egyptian man living in the United Arab Emirates.

www.apnews.com/1b0cae2870bd44db836a157cd10e9bf8/The-Latest:-Louvre-attacker-near-death;-said-to-be-Egyptian?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

Destinysdaughter · 03/02/2017 20:41

That was about the videos, this thread moves so fast!

cozietoesie · 03/02/2017 20:43

The Presidents advisers - especially his Chief of Staff - are there to tell him the things he needs to see. I suspect that videos don't count.

Lweji · 03/02/2017 20:47

I suspect at some point he'll be like the other Hussein, Saddam, whose generals seem to have kept him in the dark about the real capabilities of the Iraqi army and arsenal.

Destinysdaughter · 03/02/2017 20:49

The sad thing about all this is that real pp's lives are going to be badly affected by this evil buffoon and his henchmen. Pp are going to die.

And for what...?

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 03/02/2017 20:49

Makes me nervous the idea of astro-turfing, I mean we literally have no idea who is writing stuff! But whatever, it's all alternative facts anyway

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 20:58

The Independent ‏*@Independent* 7m7 minutes ago
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One of Obama's most important environmental policies just got repealed

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merrymouse · 03/02/2017 20:59

re: Claig, I find it difficult to believe that an 'astroturfer' would put in so much consistent effort over so many years and support Trump and Corbyn.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 20:59

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Pentagon chief says U.S. will stand by its mutual defense treaty with Japan. nyti.ms/2k4MNVj

FlyMeToTheMoonLiterally · 03/02/2017 20:59

Destiny I was born and raised in the UK but I've been thinking about fucking off to the middle of nowhere, the political climate is so toxic right now, I want to go to Austria and live in the mountains.

Lweji · 03/02/2017 21:02

The Louvre guy seems to be a 29 year old Egyptian who travelled to France via Dubai, it seems. (sorry, no English link)
The police are still verifying it, though.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 21:02

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The ever-sober @TheEconomist worries that if and when Trump decides to be a despot, there's not much stopping him.

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cozietoesie · 03/02/2017 21:03

It's about time that FLOTUS spoke. She's cutting it a bit darned fine, though.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 21:06

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Those 100k+ visas weren't just deemed unusable for 90 days; Per Trump lawyer, they no longer exist

Destinysdaughter · 03/02/2017 21:09

Ive been thinking about alternative places to live too. Torn between Ibiza, an island in Thailand or an ashram in India!

However if it does become WWIII, then no where's safe...

merrymouse · 03/02/2017 21:09

I've got a new theory that Conway is secretly trying to discredit Trump and is behind all the leaks - perhaps she is even behind one of the rogue Twitter accounts?

There has been slot of talk about the Muslim ban being just like what Obama did in 2011, but she has really managed to draw attention to the difference.

GingerIvy · 03/02/2017 21:10

The Lead CNN ‏*@TheLeadCNN* 2m2 minutes ago
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StatisticallyChallenged · 03/02/2017 21:11

Re Dodd Frank

OK, I'm not an expert on US regulation, but I work in FS in the UK (I'm an actuary) so have a fair understanding of FS regulation, economics, risk management, etc.

AFAIK, the Dodd Frank act is a pretty significant piece of legislation. Here's a summary - it's 28 pages.

A few things it covers:
-Creation of an overall body to oversee financial institutions
-extra rules around companies classed as "too big to fail" (like RBS was in the UK)
-Generally overhauled the various bodies regulating financial services
-changed the rules around disclosure and reporting for asset backed securities (if you're not familiar, these were a huge issue in the credit crunch, happy to explain if anyone wants me to!) along with credit risk retention
-prevents banks from being personally invested in hedge funds (reducing the risk they are allowed to take to try and make profits)
-forcing some derivatives trades to go through clearing houses which increases transparency and reduces counterparty risk
-Regulates hedge funds
-contains a bunch of consumer protection legislation around fees and disclosure
-Regulation of insurance companies (AFAIK, US insurers are not as heavily or prudently regulated as UK ones, but I am happy to be corrected) including recent changes for more prudent supervision of the biggest, most systematically important companies.

In other words, is a massive minefield of legislation. Big regulatory changes are a nightmare, they cost a fortune to implement (both for the government and for the companies), and they generally make a crapload of money for consultants! Of course if he's just reducing regulation that will be simpler but I would not trust Trump to have the faintest idea about ensuring an insurance company maintains sufficient capital reserves and such like. He's a blundering idiot! There's a very good reason for strong regulation of financial services companies.

cozietoesie · 03/02/2017 21:11

They're fairly inextricably associated with EP now. Where would she get another job like this one? She'll fight.

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