AIBU to think that people who don't have young children who park in parent and child spaces are selfish?

[Kjc105]

I was reading an article on the Daily Fail about a young couple with a baby who were left a note saying that parent and child spaces are for people with children (they were with their baby) but what annoyed me were people commenting under the article who were saying that they always park in parent and child even if there are other spaces available as they feel parents are entitled to too many things and why should they be inconvenienced by people having children. Is it me or is this totally selfish as the reason why those spaces are they are for the safety of the children, more space so other car doors aren't dented and closer to the store so it is generally safer for children and less likely for a child to be hit by a car. AIBU to think these people are selfish?

I think all the parents ranting over how they 'need' a p&c space would stop using them if they were moved to the back of the car park. That's where these spaces should be tbh - away from traffic so the little ones can get out relatively safely

just those who are more than capable of parking in a normal space

Which includes you. You are more than capable, it's just easier to have a bigger one.

@Astoria7974 agreed. I have no problem with that, I am sure most if not all parents would still use them at the back of the car park

Where I live there is far more disabled spaces that parent and child spaces so it makes me mad when I see disabled people use spaces for people with kids you should read your comment repeatedly until your ignorance hits you.

But Astoria then you'd have to escort your small children across the whole car park. How is that safer?!

I've never thought people with children are inconveniencing those without, but I do get annoyed with people claiming they absolutely need it etc as they couldn't possibly go shopping without it. Absolute rubbish. Millions of people managed without them and so can modern parents. I really do think it's nice they exist, but hate it when people are precious about them.

Then why do they have spaces specifically for parent and child? What are you arguing about?

But Astoria then you'd have to escort your small children across the whole car park. How is that safer?!

Usually there's a walkway. If not, why would a responsible parent walking with their child be less safe that an adult walking alone?

But Astoria then you'd have to escort your small children across the whole car park. How is that safer
Well, you could try holding their hands, using reins...

All the light...People escort children around towns and cities all over the world. Yes there is more of a risk than if they are right by the shop, but that's life.

Yes of course, hold hands, use reins etc. But you can't claim it's safer than not having to cross the car park with young children!

Then why do they have spaces specifically for parent and child

Because parents with children spend a lot of money in supermarkets so they offer larger spaces to encourage them to use their store. These spaces never used to exist and yet...parents managed to get their groceries.

What are you arguing about?
its your thread, surely you remember what your point of discussion was?

I used to wonder what the point of p&c bays were, until I had a baby. Yes, it is 'handy' to have extra space. No, it is not a necessity. Of course anyone with mobility issues should use the bays. Common sense. Some lazy arse people are just jealous of p&c bays. How about getting some fresh air and exercise and walking a few extra steps??

allthelight a responsible parent will find a way to safely escort a child from the back of a car park.

Kj105....Err the same thing you are arguing about surely? Anyway, not arguing really and not angry at all, just making comments, just like you😁

Yes of course, hold hands, use reins etc. But you can't claim it's safer than not having to cross the car park with young children!

You could argue the most vulnerable people are the elderly who are much more likely to have hearing or visual problems and slower reactions. I don't hear many calling for special spaces for them so they don't have to cross the car park.

Really if people had any decency at all they would link arms to create a safe passageway so mums could just drive straight into the store.

Well as someone said upthread, we have P and C spaces because families with several children spend a lot of money.

I imagine the whole problem you have with this, OP, is because you read the Daily Mail. It always causes a lot of anger!

PurpleDaisies it's not about visual problems and slower reactions, children are so small that they can't be seen by cars reversing so hence why it is more dangerous.

Sorry cross post there.

I prefer p&c bays to be closer to the shop so that I do not have to push my pram behind parked cars. Drivers can see me walking along before they reverse out, however, because the pram is lower they are less likely to see it. I would still use the p&c bays if they were further away and next to a walkway.

Children aren't walking on their own though are they? The adult can be seen.

I agree that they are just a courtesy but like a pp said it does come down to basic courtesy.

Nobody is entitled to a please or thank you, to have the door held for them when following somebody else or to have help trying to navigate a buggy down steps etc.

These things just make the world a slightly better place.

I could manage perfectly well in a normal space when my children were younger but the P&C spaces did make life a little bit easier.

If you park in them for no other reason than you can because you don't feel it's an entitlement then that is your right. Still makes you a bit of an arse to possibly deprive someone else of something that may make it a bit easier for someone else.

If you think somebody shouldn't be allowed to use them when they may have need of the space for another reason - mobility issues etc then you are a bit of an arse for wanting to deprive someone else of something that may make their life a bit easier.

I think it would be nice if we could expect a bit more from each other in terms of basic consideration and common courtesy.

Just because you can do something it doesn't mean you should

How long is your pram chosen1?