AIBU to think that people who don't have young children who park in parent and child spaces are selfish?

[Kjc105]

I was reading an article on the Daily Fail about a young couple with a baby who were left a note saying that parent and child spaces are for people with children (they were with their baby) but what annoyed me were people commenting under the article who were saying that they always park in parent and child even if there are other spaces available as they feel parents are entitled to too many things and why should they be inconvenienced by people having children. Is it me or is this totally selfish as the reason why those spaces are they are for the safety of the children, more space so other car doors aren't dented and closer to the store so it is generally safer for children and less likely for a child to be hit by a car. AIBU to think these people are selfish?

[Kjc105]

@purpledaisies I don't have the luxury of having a boot big enough to fit my buggy in. Before anyone says I should get myself a bigger car, I can't afford one. Cue all the people who will have a go at me for that.

[AllFurCoatNoKnickera]

If they put the spaces near the back of the car park they might actually get used for their real purpose - space for car seats and swinging toddlers, not just to be closer to the shop.

My local Tesco ones are right in front of cash machines so are always full of people just popping to the cash machine which is annoying.

People who have to get car seats in and out genuinely need the space to get the car seat out. I'm sure someone who doesn't feel the spaces are necessary would be the first people to kick off if their car door got scratched by someone trying to manoeuvre a car seat out of a tiny gap.

[PlayOnWurtz]

Know what makes me really mad? Like properly angry mad?






















My dog farting. Man it's grim. She always saves it for when she's on my lap too

[Sirzy]

I can't fit ds SN buggy in my boot. It gets strapped in the passenger seat. But I can still get it in in a normal space if I can't get a p and c space.

[PurpleDaisies]

Where I live there is far more disabled spaces that parent and child spaces so it makes me mad when I see disabled people use spaces for people with kids

Firstly, disabled people can have children too.
Secondly, not all disabled people qualify for a blue badge
Thirdly, what kind of person gets angry with disabled people for parking where they can more easily get out of their car?

Disgusting comment.

[Mumzypopz]

Purple daisy....My thoughts exactly. They just need to park it at the back of the car, take child out and carry /walk them to side of car, and put child in car. Easy!

[FuzzyOwl]

I have two children under 2 and arthritis but am perfectly capable of walking despite having problems with my knees and I have no need to be dropped by the entrance. P&C spaces are great but if they aren't available, they aren't available.

Yes there is online shopping but my toddler loves the lights and bright colours of a supermarket and sometimes, especially when the weather is horrible, it is somewhere to take her. However, if a P&C space isn't available, I do tend to park at the furthest point of the car park because it is usually the emptiest and means there is more room.

[jpclarke]

We have a big family car that is a little wider, I have dd 3 and ds 2 and I am heavily pregnant so just for the space to just physically myself get in and out of the car and to get the kids out safely these spaces are invaluable. I have been trapped and not able to get back into my car in normal parking spots due to people parking too close and I remember on one occasion asking a stranger to hold onto my dd while I reversed the car so I could get the two kids one of whom was in a baby car seat at the time into the car. It frustrates me when these spaces are used by people who do not need them.

[SingingInTheRainstorm]

I know an argument last time was someone couldn't do online shopping as it was so expensive. Looking at Teaco's they have a selection of products that are a value brand, so you could do a shop online, only bug bear being you have to spend a minimum or face a basket charge, which to me is just crazy.
But there are options which make having a new baby easier for you. I think last time I looked at Aldi it looked like they did online shopping and delivery. You can even get cheaper slots at night when the children are hopefully in bed, so you don't have screaming kids & shopping to deal with.
Other than that the suggestion to have them further away from the shop would be a good idea. Since only space is required. But you still may get the odd person OCD about their car being dented parking there if they can't park far away with no risk.
I know my parents have joked we've got children, should we, but that was a joke & they never would. I think that's why many specify parent and young child.
These threads are so much fun, it hardly ever changes.

[PurpleDaisies]

But you still may get the odd person OCD about their car being dented parking there if they can't park far away with no risk.

You do know OCD is a serious mental illness that wrecks people's lives? It isn't anything to do with not wanting your car dented.

[Badhairday1001]

I think that is a really good idea to put the P&C spaces further away from the store but near a few trolley parking bays. No one will want to park in them then unless they actually need the extra space and parents can put the kids in the trolley in a quieter safer environment. Then the disabled spaces could be near to the store for people who need them.

[Kronutpearl]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, ONLINE SHOPPING!!

[PlayOnWurtz]

Ffs you can't be a "bit" ocd as someone with actual OCD this is one of the most offensive sayings in the English language!!

[Mumzypopz]

Kjc105..... I had an extremely small car when I had my first, so I bought a very small buggy that would fit. But then P and c spaces were just becoming a thing then and there weren't many about. If they didn't exist when you had yours, pretty sure you would make do too. It's unfortunately the fact that they do exist that makes people think they need them. They don't.

[PlayOnWurtz]

kronut I suggested that waaaaaay earlier on the thread

[PlayOnWurtz]

My first car was a 3 door ka and I had a small child to ferry around. How on earth did I cope?

[OneWithTheForce]

I have a 1 year old and I these spaces are so necessary!

So do you never go anywhere other than the supermarket then?

[PigletWasPoohsFriend]

Where I live there is far more disabled spaces that parent and child spaces so it makes me mad when I see disabled people use spaces for people with kids

Disabled people make you mad. Aren't you a peach

Oh and of course, no disabled people have DC do they. looks accross room at DSC reading and remembers putting DC to bed earlier

[harderandharder2breathe]

People who use them because they need them due to mobility issues or other disability (regardless of whether they have a blue badge) I think they should have equal right to use them as parent and child.

If people really are using them because they're lazy then they are unreasonable and selfish.

[Kjc105]

@harderandhardertobreathe agreed

[Borisrules]

I remember not being able to get a p&c space when DD was young. I had arrived when there were no cars either side. I removed car seat and put on top of buggy to nip into the post office. When I got back, the cars either side were parked so close I couldn't physically get the car seat back in. There was no-one to help. I had to put the car seat and baby in the boot, leave the buggy on the pavement, back out of the space then stop and sort it all out.
It's the getting back to the car at the end that can be the problem with ordinary spaces.
I have to say though, I don't really bother too much if there isn't a p&c space available and I certainly don't take note as to whether the other people have children or not!

[Kjc105]

I saw a maybe 60 year old woman and her grown son park in p & c space and I heard her say, "well you're my child" and they were laughing and joking. To be fair, there were a couple of spaces free but literally 2metres away there was a normal space which they could have used. I haven't noticed anyone else and I don't take note of who uses them but it was the comments on the daily mail article that bothered me as so many people seemed to think that people with children are inconveniencing people who don't have children. I find that way of thinking weird as I never thought that before I had my child.

[Dawndonnaagain]

Where I live there is far more disabled spaces that parent and child spaces so it makes me mad when I see disabled people use spaces for people with kids
I know, it's out of order right, me and my dd being seen out and about when really she should be locked up in an institution so that people like you don't have to deal with the fragility of another person's existence.
Those 'kids' in the main will grow up and hopefully not want/need those spaces until they are parents themselves. My dd will always need, that's need not want a space, so from me, her and her twin (of whom it's looking increasingly likely will also be in a wheelchair soon) fuck of to the far side of fuck and when you get there...
well, you know the routine.

[Kjc105]

Who are you aiming all of this anger at?? I have not said once that I have a problem with people using them when they NEED to, just those who are more than capable of parking in a normal space l