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The official Trump thread. It's true. It is. No it's not. The President said it is

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amispartacus · 31/01/2017 23:05

Because 24 hours is a long time in US politics

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2841897-Trump-thread-6

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GigotdAgneau · 01/02/2017 17:28

I've just seen this. Sorry if I'm late to the party. Am bigly sad. Republicans block Democrats

cozietoesie · 01/02/2017 17:33

I'm looking back with deep nostalgia to the 'Government in the Sunshine Act'.

You'll recall that its purpose was stated as:

The legislative intent of the Act is as follows: "The basic premise of the sunshine legislation is that, in the words of federalistNo. 49, 'the people are the only legitimate foundation of power, and it is from them that the constitutional charter ... is derived.' Government is and should be the servant of the people, and it should be fully accountable to them for the actions which it supposedly takes on their behalf." (U.S.C.C.A.N. 2183, 2186).

Ho Hum.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:35

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ICYMI: NILC Responds to Nomination to U.S. Supreme Court of Judge Neil Gorsuch www.nilc.org/2017/01/31/nomination-scotus-gorsuch/

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:38

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President Trump told Senator Mitch McConnell to "go nuclear" if Democrats filibuster his Supreme Court pick

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cozietoesie · 01/02/2017 17:38

I think that The Federalist Papers might bear some study if anyone here has the time?

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:40

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A scoop from @shaneharris: Dem lawmakers want probe into Flynn's ties to @RT_com
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PausingFlatly · 01/02/2017 17:43

GingerIvy, thank you for that USA Today piece about Bannon. Very interesting - including plenty of #alternativefacts while he was at Breitbart.

And this:
Concern about brewing conflict, he said, was a fundamental concept behind Bannon's media enterprise. “Our big belief, one of our central organizing principles at the site, is that we’re at war,” he said. "It's war. It's war. Every day, we put up: America's at war, America's at war. We're at war,” he said in December 2015. “Note to self, beloved commander in chief: We're at war."

Good job the US didn't elect for Hillary the warmonger then! Phew!

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:45

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GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:46

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Many feds don’t like Trump’s program, but they’re not revolting wapo.st/2kqBESl

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:47

Pausing Yes, ironic re H Clinton.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:50

Here we go......

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#UPDATE UN chief calls for lifting US travel ban
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PausingFlatly · 01/02/2017 17:51

Hmm, I'd be concerned about Pence or whoever's quietly lurking, maybe not part of the cabal but happy to take advantage.

Because the shock doctrine has many purposes. One is to destroy existing structures in a blitzkrieg, and take advantage of the stunned population to impose your own structures. (The EOs, the SCOTUS-packing, the arrogating of the Marshals to answer to the president not the law.)

But another is to create a situation so extreme that people will leap at a less extreme "solution", even though it's something they would have wholeheartedly rejected before the shock.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:52

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World-leading climate change scientist calls for 'rebellion' against Donald Trump
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BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 17:52

zebra I confess dh and I make short, very artsy films for fun. We tend to rope in friends to be on them and they just get shown at local short film nights. I am so wanting to make your film now though Grin

My current vision is you in a dance studio in tutu and a zebra head. You dance while images of trump intercut and overlaid with dictators from history are projected on the walls and over you. At some point, as trump and bannon are shown you collapse against the bar clutching an ECG monitor strapped to your chest. The monitor line is shown on the wall...Or maybe starts printing out in long sheets that pile up on the floor showing broken and erratic lines. You slide to the floor elegantly.... Possibly there is some other stuff that happens....

Sigh...It will be beautiful...and moving...I shall call it 'The Broken Hearted Zebra'

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:53

Pausing If Trump and Bannon could be taken out of office, I think we could deal with Pence. And I think people would be ready to turn on him quickly if he was stupid enough to push his luck too far.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:55

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Seattle City Council committee will vote to divest and cancel $3 Billion contract with Wells Fargo for investing in the Dakota Access Pipeline.
If they pass this today, it will go to a full city council vote on Feb. 6th.
Seattle will be the first city in the country to cut ties with DAPL & wellfargo!!
In light of Trump's executive order, we need every city in the country to divest!
We have to put monetary sanctions on institutions that profit off destroying the earth, exploiting people, criminalizing the poor people, and perpetuating state violence.
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BigBadgers · 01/02/2017 17:56

This made me laugh...Quite a bit :o

This MEP Just Trolled Nigel Farage While He Was Speaking In The European Parliament
www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/im-with-farage?utm_term=.cyv08eagJM#.hr8KvWe05k

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:58

This will be interesting - re the DAC. If the contracts for funding the DAC are cancelled, it can't go ahead.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 17:58

They'd have to round up additional funding - might not be that easy in this political climate.

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 18:00

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Deejoda · 01/02/2017 18:00

amispartacus on the Boko Haram issue...Nigeria is 48% muslim, 48% christian and 4% animalist/atheist/other. So not majority muslim. Also BH hasn't killed any foreigners, certainly no reports of any westerners. Majority of their victims are people in 3 states, most are muslimsparticularly in Borno state. Also, Nigeria is an oil-producer (although declining volumes) and alot of the national wealth that has been looted is being stored in the West (mostly European off-shore accounts and London prime real estate). So it comes down to scale of BH terrorism and more important oil and money

GingerIvy · 01/02/2017 18:02

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Trump sued by doctor whose visa was revoked 'for Muslim prayer app'
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MayhemandMadness01 · 01/02/2017 18:03

Is Trump making another announcement at 8pm US time tonight??

merrymouse · 01/02/2017 18:07

From that USA today piece:

“These are not Jeffersonian democrats,” he said of immigrants to Europe from Muslim majority countries in April of last year. “These are not people with thousands of years of democracy in their DNA coming up here.”

Erm, which European country has 'thousands of years of democracy in their DNA?'

I'm pretty sure women only started getting the vote in Europe about 100 years ago - or don't women count as humans?

I know the 'enlightenment' took place in the 1700s, but America had slavery for decades after independence, and the civil rights movement didn't gain strength till the 1960's.

Is this alt history?

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