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Trump thread 6

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amispartacus · 30/01/2017 18:52

And it's only been a day since no 5

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:31

Hey all. Looks like I have a lot to catch up on. Been out all day. I think I may be afraid to look!

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:36

Have I missed anything major? No new EOs???

chartreuse · 31/01/2017 16:40

Interesting article on Vanity Fair (they despise Trump) about Jared and Ivanka. As Orthodox Jews, he doesn't work or use technology on Saturdays which is when things seem to fall apart. The first Sat was Spicers strop, then last Sat we had the airport chaos. Although Kushner seems to be able to restrain POTUS, it seems to be taking its toll, Kushner pale and losing weight from the stress. I think it's a case of be careful what you wish for.

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:43

Interestingly, I've not seen Kushner in many pictures, except in the "let them eat cake" pic with Ivanka. Where's he been hiding?

Destinysdaughter · 31/01/2017 16:44

Excellent article on the Faustian pact the Republicans have made with Trump...

<a class="break-all" href="https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/the-republican-fausts.html?smid=tw-nytdavidbrooks&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=t.co/0QQggC8MvN" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/the-republican-fausts.html?smid=tw-nytdavidbrooks&smtyp=cur&_r=0&referer=t.co/0QQggC8MvN

chartreuse · 31/01/2017 16:48

They said the 'let them eat cake' happened because J and I were oblivious to what was going on re the ban

CaveMum · 31/01/2017 16:48

My favourite protest sign I've seen so far was outside the U.S. Supreme Court, it simply read:

"WTF Y'all"

Grin

The thing that amazes me about US politics is that literally anyone can be given a Cabinet position. I mean at least in this country all Cabinet/Shadow Cabinet positions are held by sitting MPs who have been vetted by their parties and democratically elected, and have experience of the political system and due process.

Of course my education in U.S. Politics is 100% down to Mr Sorkin, so I may get my facts confused Grin

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 16:48

I seem to recall BJ not actually answering a question in the House about who he had obtained the exemption for UK passport holders from - i.e. The State Department or the President's Son In Law. (Happy to be corrected on this of course - I haven't read Hansard yet.)

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:50

chartreuse don't believe it for a moment - they both are senior/main advisers and the ban had been planned for weeks. And realistically speaking, it was all over the media, there were people picketing outside. No way they didn't know.

This isn't good. Fingers crossed she doesn't get past the full Senate.

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BREAKING: Senate committee approves DeVos for education secretary, sends nomination to full Senate.

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:51

We must must stop using "BJ". My brain keeps recoiling.

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 16:51

My apologies, Ginger. Grin

Destinysdaughter · 31/01/2017 16:53

Ginger welcome back! Smile

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:56

cozie no worries. Clearly my mind is in the gutter. No idea why. Confused

Destinys Thank you Smile

So... No new EOs today then? And please tell me this is correct that Bannon has to be vetted by the Senate? They hate him.

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:58

Scott Dworkin ‏*@funder* 11s11 seconds ago
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#BREAKING⚡️ #Democrats stop vote on #Trump's health and treasury picks!

This is good. Health - Tom Price, Treasury - Steve Mnuchin.

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 16:59

Matthew Miller ‏*@matthewamiller* 14h14 hours ago
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Sessions simply can't be confirmed in this environment. At the minimum, he needs a whole new hearing to answer q's about DOJ independence.

cozietoesie · 31/01/2017 17:01

The constitution is more than a little wobbly at the moment, though.

That's the GOP's Scylla did they but realise it. Wink

GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 17:01

Laura Kuenssberg ‏*@bbclaurak* now5 seconds ago
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Myron Ebell, Trump adviser, known as climate change denier, has visited number 10 this afternoon......
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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 17:03

Mikel Jollett ‏**@Mikel**_Jollett 19h19 hours ago
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White nationalist who murdered 6 at Quebec mosque has killed more than all refugees from all ban countries combined.
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White nationalist US terrorists have killed more people in acts of terror since 9-11 than any other group.

ZebraOwl · 31/01/2017 17:04

My brain always tries to turn Mnuchin into Munchkin, but Moron for Myron was unexpected...

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 17:05

People are saying that this will prevent attacks. Yet many terrorist attacks come from home grown terrorists radicalised online. Lone wolves. Richard Reid the shoe bomber. 7/7 bombers.

I have seen NO evidence of how Trump will prevent that. I do strongly suspect that his actions will increase home grown radicalisation - which in a country where guns can be purchased easily (and yes, even by people on terrorist watch lists) is an issue.

www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gun-votes-20160620-snap-story.html

Ask people why they think this ok

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 17:07

I just keep thinking "Badges?! We don't need no stinkin' badges!!" Grin

PausingFlatly · 31/01/2017 17:08

cozie, I have read the Hansard and you're exactly correct: B Johnson dodged the question about whether he'd spoked to Kushner.

amispartacus · 31/01/2017 17:08

White nationalist US terrorists have killed more people in acts of terror since 9-11 than any other group

And people on no fly lists and watch lists can buy guns...

www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-gun-votes-20160620-snap-story.html

A strange country.

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GingerIvy · 31/01/2017 17:09

More changes:

Ari Melber ‏*@AriMelber* 9s9 seconds ago
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ICE official now: Green card holders get "waivers" to re-enter US under Order -
That leaves confusion on their long term status under Order

ZebraOwl · 31/01/2017 17:10

amispartacus

Daesh are counting on it radicalising more U.S. citizens - and indeed people in other [Western] countries for that matter. IIRC they've already got some propaganda out on the matter. They looooooove Trump, they do.