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Trump thread 6

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amispartacus · 30/01/2017 18:52

And it's only been a day since no 5

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GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:17

Jamison Foser
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Jamison Foser Retweeted Brad Johnson
I will immediately contribute to campaign of any Senator who casts Tillerson vote by yelling “NYET” during roll call

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shakeyospeare · 30/01/2017 23:18

Has there ever been a time since WW2 when there has been a leader like Trump? In developed world I mean.

I'm so saddened that so many people have forgotten the atrocities from WW2, or the events that led up to it - even more disappointed that the majority of people supporting Trump seem to be baby boomers (50s/60s) thereabouts - just an observation from Facebook comments.

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:18

whooops! here we go!

Dr. Chanda 🇧🇧 ‏*@IBJIYONGI* 13s14 seconds ago
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judge's order in eastern dist of NY includes call for US Marshals to enforce the order if necessary tsaoutofourpants.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/darweesh-v-dhs-tro.pdf … #NoBanNoWall

Lweji · 30/01/2017 23:19

Where I live a prestigious science foundation has offered to help stranded scientists.

I meant to post in the previous thread, but got busy.

I've met a few Iranian scientists. Nice people. Not a danger.

The US is being led by dangerous, dangerous people.

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:19

David Yankovich ‏*@DavidYankovich* 1h1 hour ago
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Okay, this is important.

Republicans in Congress are shutting their phones off, hanging up on people, and hiding.

Why isn't media on it?

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:20

Mikel Jollett ‏*@Mikel*_Jollett 4h4 hours ago
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Sean Spicer says refugees were "inconvenienced."

They were:
Detained without food
Separated from children
Deported into active war zones
Inconvenienced, @PressSec?

Some were TRICKED under coercion into giving up legal visas or even their permanent legal residence status:

amispartacus · 30/01/2017 23:20

Ironically, America was colonised by people fleeing religious persecution in Europe.

Things have changed.

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GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:21

Kirsten Gillibrand ‏*@SenGillibrand* 7m7 minutes ago
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I'm voting no on Rex Tillerson's nomination as Secretary of State and will urge my Senate colleagues to join me.

(NY Senator)

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:22

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Trump: “I noticed Chuck Schumer yesterday with fake tears” over immigration ban/refugees; “I'm gonna ask him who is his acting coach”

Ron Hogan ‏*@RonHogan* 5h5 hours ago
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Ron Hogan Retweeted Bradd Jaffy
The Nazis murdered Sen. Schumer's great-grandmother, and most of her children.

Trump's father was arrested at a Ku Klux Klan rally.

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:23

ABC News ‏*@ABC* 6m6 minutes ago
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How the government strives to tell if a refugee applicant is lying about being a Christian: abcn.ws/2kNw0GB

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:25

Tom Lowenthal ‏*@flamsmark* 2h2 hours ago
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Tom Lowenthal Retweeted Matt Hamilton
“You illegally deported that man in violation of my order so you are going to go over there and GET HIM BACK.”
—LA federal judge

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:25

Wajahat Ali ‏*@WajahatAli* 10m10 minutes ago
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From attorney friend: "Received word of a flight from Pakistan w LPRS being coerced to sign I-407s to abandon their permanent residency."

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:27

Newsweek ‏*@Newsweek* 13m13 minutes ago
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White House official: Hill Republicans "wrote" travel ban.
Republicans: No, we didn't.
bit.ly/2jMJLr9

BagelGoesWalking · 30/01/2017 23:29

Ginger wanted to respond about your comment (sorry if already answered, I can't keep up!)

"@Yair_Rosenberg Ivanka claims to be Modern Orthodox, yet eats at treyfe restaurants in Manhattan, and always wears sleeveless dresses."

Traditional Orthodox women would wear long skirts, long sleeves etc and wigs to cover their hair, much like some Muslim cover themselves

However, there are many women who consider themselves religious but don't follow such a restrictive dress code. Many differences between Orthodox Jew, Modern Orthodox and Reform Jews.

"Treyfe" means non kosher. Strictly, means not using same utensils for milk and meat, using different crockery. It goes further than just not eating pork and shellfish. But again, different people have different interpretations of the same "laws" but both would/could consider themselves religious.

merrymouse · 30/01/2017 23:29

Countries have borders. Anyone who truly believes that borders are not good, remove the locks from your homes, post your passwords and enjoy the chaos

Just try leaving your house to go to work if you have to pass through a check point every day.

Sometimes there are dangers but people also have to live. Plenty of countries allow people to cross borders easily because the benefits are far greater than the potential risk. (See also risk of driving a car, although that really is quite dangerous).

Other countries have very strict borders. It isn't usually a sign of a thriving economy and healthy democracy.

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:29

CNN Politics ‏*@CNNPolitics* 19s19 seconds ago
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Democrats will ask for a delay to a committee vote on Tom Price's nomination, according to a letter shared with CNN cnn.it/2jMF68M

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:31

Bagel thank you. I'd never heard the term treyfe before.

merrymouse · 30/01/2017 23:34

m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/14501792

Sean Spicer uses Canada shooting to justify increased security.

His logic isn't clear.

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:34

Owen Jones ‏*@OwenJones84* 33s34 seconds ago
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We will only defeat Trump and Trumpism by building grassroots movements from below #StandUpToTrump
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/30/donald-trump-resistance-protests-travel-ban-opposition?CMP=share_btn_tw

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:35

CNN International ‏*@cnni* 22s22 seconds ago
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First on CNN: US Justice Department will not defend executive order on travel restrictions cnn.it/2jMI6lA

GingerIvy · 30/01/2017 23:38

Nat'l Imm Law Center ‏*@NILC*_org 35s36 seconds ago
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Acting AG for @TheJusticeDept is not convinced the #MuslimBan is lawful. Another reason to take it off the books,
www.nytimes.com/2017/01/30/us/politics/attorney-general-civil-rights-refugee.html?smprod=nytcore-iphone&smid=nytcore-iphone-share

Monkeyinshoes · 30/01/2017 23:38

The early warning signs of fascism destinysdaughter posted is a list taken from an article written by Lawrence Britt.

The full section of the article on the 14 characteristics of fascism can be found here ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

Lweji · 30/01/2017 23:38

Sean Spicer uses Canada shooting to justify increased security.

Because if there are no Muslims in the US then they can't get shot. Jeez.