Trump thread continued

[amispartacus]

Follow on from before.

It's not funny anymore. It' serious

If only is thread was about a netflix boxset

DameVanillaSugar The people of Devon must rise up to overthrown the Orange Oppressor of Proper Scone Etiquette.

Goebbels secretary was wrong - although the country was under a kind of spell, (as we are now in the UK pandering to Farage and the Tory right, and sucking up to Trump), there were people who defied the Nazis and paid the price for it.

there were people who defied the Nazis and paid the price for it

Sophie Scholl.
The White Rose group

Just students - executed by guillotine 2 hrs after trial

She did mention that those who defied the nazis were made to suffer.
It's easy to say we'd have done so and so, but it's harder when you have more to lose than benefit. Until any fight is almost useless.

I can't see how a totalitarian regime can be brought into a modern country iin the internet age?

I worry that even if the senate managed to stage a revolt and move to impeach him the damage has already been done. People have been turned against each other and previously illicit thoughts about immigrants and others have been given legitimacy. This can't easily be put back in the box. Best case scenario still leaves America a dangerously fractured nation.

I can't see how a totalitarian regime can be brought into a modern country iin the internet age?

Look up Venezuela.

CNN Politics ‏*@CNNPolitics* 14s15 seconds ago
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President Donald Trump's travel ban fundamentally changes American history cnn.it/2jJSSZB

The Atlantic ‏*@TheAtlantic* 13s13 seconds ago
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How Trump's Muslim immigration order could affect higher education, @Emily_DeRuy reports: theatln.tc/2kJ07Tz

This just gets more and more terrifying all the time, I almost can't believe this is happening.

The internet is a tool. It can be used for good or bad in some ways it makes it easier for a totalitarian regime as it is easy to track people and find out who those who speak out are, and America already has the tools to do this. It also makes it easy to sow disinformation, trump has already made use of this. Mass censorship is also possible, but harder to achieve, China has managed it though. Besides, most censorship is enforced by the individual who is afraid of the repercussions of defying the will of the regime. If you believe they can tell if you defy them and believe they will exact a harsh penalty then you are unlikely to even go looking for information.

It's frightening how quickly it's all happening....

Ari Melber ‏*@AriMelber* 9m9 minutes ago
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Schumer now: I'm asking for a vote to repeal this ban today.

I have mentioned this on a previous thread, but I would encourage people to watch the Edward Snowdon documentary "citizenfour" for an insight into the kind of surveillance trump now has his hands on. I think it is still on Netflix.

Huffington Post ‏*@HuffingtonPost* 9m9 minutes ago
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Arkansas governor signs abortion law banning common procedure huff.to/2jyrYUF

I suppose if there is sufficient rot present already then things just need to be set in motion and collapse will follow

Its just a case of getting a foot in the door and then it can fall like dominoes?

HuffPostCulture ‏*@HuffPostArts* 11m11 minutes ago
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Cartoonist compares Trump's presidency to McCarthyism in vibrant comics huff.to/2kdXgRj

An ethical insurance company...go figure

The insurance company AXA UK, says its travel policy holders will be entitled to claims if they have been hit by Trump’s travel ban. It said:

“In light of the sudden and unexpected decision by the Trump administration to block entry to the US for nationals from Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Iraq, Iran, Libya and Yemen, AXA Insurance UK confirms that individuals who have been denied entry as a result of the executive order, will be able to claim on their policy. Although not technically covered, we view the current situation as unprecedented and unforeseen and as such we are extending the cover under our policies. For those intending to travel to, or return from, the United States of America we recommend allowing extra time due to protests currently taking place at a number of airports.”

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Protest rally against the MuslimBan to be held in Exeter today www.exeterexpressandecho.co.uk/anti-muslimban-protest-rally-to-be-held-in-exeter-today/story-30096345-detail/story.html …

POLITICO ‏*@politico* 6m6 minutes ago
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Iraq parliament approves 'reciprocity' to U.S. ban

Ouch. Some of Congress is getting angry. Good.

(((Rep. Nadler))) ‏*@RepJerryNadler* 2m2 minutes ago
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I'm on @Morning_Joe next. @realDonaldTrump should tune in, he might learn something about his unconstitutional, illegal + stupid #MuslimBan.

The Guardian ‏*@guardian* 4m4 minutes ago
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Should Donald Trump's access to nuclear weapons be restricted?
www.theguardian.com/science/brain-flapping/2017/jan/30/should-donald-trumps-access-to-nuclear-weapons-be-restricted?CMP=twt_gu

"The Guardian’s political editor, Anushka Asthana, says the government is adamant that the foreign office statement last night - that dual nationals will be allowed in as long as they are not travelling from one of the seven countries - is correct, despite the contradictory statement from the US embassy in London."

Anushka Asthana @GuardianAnushka
Govt sources saying the FCO statement last night was signed off by president Trump's team, and insists "they are in charge"
12:04 PM - 30 Jan 2017

Anushka Asthana @GuardianAnushka
Govt source tells me they have clarified the situation with White House today, and FCO statement is correct... twitter.com/GuardianAnushka/status/826034742256603138 …
12:05 PM - 30 Jan 2017

Well that's it then
Sorry America, you're fucked