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Follow on from before.

It's not funny anymore. It' serious

I had a UKIP supporter reply to one of my tweets today commenting on the crowd size. I countered her argument on Monday and I got the reply today. Was surprised she's going on about that.

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Formal statement from FCO expected shortly - sources say assurances mean Mo Farah + others in that position will be able to go home

Suddenly, all certainties look shaky. Residencies, passports, green cards, jobs, mortgages, friends, marriages – all the things you thought fortified you against the mobilisation of state machinery – dissolve. You are only a Muslim. And what does that mean? It is a tag that defies definition, becoming more elusive the more you try to pin it down.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/29/muslims-america-untouchables-donald-trump-ban-islamophobia

Apologies if this has already been posted. It's worth a read. Not just for the discussion on how it feels to be on the receiving end of this, but for the part about how we got here. Because reprehensible as this is, it hasn't sprung out of nowhere. It's just that now, we can all see that the frog is cooked.

Made Doza's link clicky:

www.my.uplift.ie/petitions/shamrock-not-in-my-name

(Do you think it would be ok for Le to sign? I've not actually got my dual citizenship done yet, but...)

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Senator Chuck Schumer leads chant of "The people united will never be defeated!" at New York City protest abcn.ws/2kh3LDz

Oh for goodness sake! ME to sign it!

Not read all of this new thread yet, I'm sure there are multiple links to this petition, but here it is again- going up by about 60/70k signatures an hour I think.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

I've been upset about what's going on all day, but this has just lightened my mood slightly. I'm going to bed laughing and encouraged by the thought that there does seem to be some fighting back going on. The Senate Minority Leader's speech was very moving.

It does worry me because obviously I'm an American in the UK. I am on an ILR, so have indefinite leave to remain. To get my citizenship, I'd have to pay over £1.5K. I have children with disabilities, and just don't have the spare cash for that. If the UK were to go back on the ILR, which is really just the UK equivalent of a green card, it'd be a horrendous ordeal getting things sorted. My ex wouldn't give me permission to take the children out the country, and I wouldn't have the legal permission to stay if they revoked the ILRs. It's scary. At some point, yes, I need to get the citizenship sorted.... but technically the ILR is supposed to be permanent residency.

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Margaret Sullivan ‏*@Sulliview* 1m1 minute ago
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Promo/headline on Breitbart home page right now: "Another promotion for rising star Bannon." I guess that's one way to look at it.

This is the Turkish press conference with May.

At 21 mins, a UK journalist asks a very hard question of May. You can see the look on his face.

Meanwhile, a refreshing change - all in the states is not about Trump.

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GOP bill in Mississippi pushes fines, counseling for wearing sagging pants huff.to/2jGeCU5

The veneer of civilisation is so thin... or at least, that's how this whole debacle feels to me right now.

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If we turn our backs on widows and orphans fleeing the very evil we despise, we do not defeat our enemies; we surrender to them

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Howard Dean Retweeted Senator Tim Kaine
Tim, this is great but the Dems in the Senate actually have to do something about this stuff. You are being left behind by your base

Been following these threads with increasing horror, finding them do informative so thanks to all of you posting links and tweets.
Zebra you can of course sign the Irish petition, the more signatures the better! (Irish here) Though the site seems to have crashed. It's numbers are rising incredibly fast since I signed this morning.

All power to you ZebraOwl. Those individuals need challenging at every turn.

I would love to know what's going at number 10 right now. I hope I'm not right in thinking that the PM will leave this to Boris Johnson and Amber Rudd to address.

Dan Gillmor ‏*@dangillmor* 15s16 seconds ago
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No longer irrational to wonder what Trump will use to "justify" total crackdown on democracy and rule of law. Will Congress go along?.

Steve Silberman ‏*@stevesilberman* 2h2 hours ago
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Know this: Trump and Bannon's version of the Reichstag Fire is just days or weeks away. www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007657 …

wow - May is very good at non answers. 1st Q deflected.

Turkey's PM gives a very good answer. Try and solve the problems to stop people fleeing.

He shames May with his answer. Turkey has loads of refugees.

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.@BobYamtich Trump/Bannon will blame their incident on "terrorism," and implicate "dishonest media," ACLU, and immigrants for "fomenting."

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10 people still detained at JFK airport following Trump immigration ban: hill.cm/Ck917ab

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Foreign Office on deal with UK: US reaffirms strong commitment to the expeditious processing of all travellers from the UK

Sad to say, but at the moment the US "reaffirming" anything means SFA

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Chair of Joint Chiefs & DNI are after thoughts in Cabinet level principals mtgs. And CIA?? Cut out of everything? #NationalSecurityCouncil
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Ari Melber Retweeted Susan Rice
Unusually strong critique from Rice on Trump reorganizing security council to diminish intel, elevate Bannon etc:

Thank you GingerIvy As a fellow American I appreciate the effort you're going through to keep us informed.

Rep. Don Beyer ‏*@RepDonBeyer* 15m15 minutes ago
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We have a constitutional crisis today. Four Members of Congress asked CBP officials to enforce a federal court order and were turned away.