It's been just over a week, and what a week. Amazing. So good. The best.

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Follow up from previous thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2837382-Donald-Trump-the-first-week-is-BAD-What-next-Come-all-ye-Beautifuls?

Ginger - those airlines need to be named and shamed. Commercial boycotts can be very powerful. Imagine if Facebook and Google (two of the companies whose CEs have been very outspoken against Trump) stopped using them.

Conservative MP James Cleverly from Braintree speaking out against Trump's ban.

Qatar is one of them.

it seems that Canada has offered to receive refugees that are denied entrance in the US

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To those fleeing persecution, terror & war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength #WelcomeToCanada

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Hearing that customs officials in tears because they can't get guidance from White House, DHS not returning calls, etc and crowds growing.

Reportedly thousands of protesters there (JFK) now, chanting.

Um.....

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Strategy talk leading up to POTUS interview tonight has been weighing whether to publicly acknowledge that no Obamacare replacement planned.

I think KLM was one also.

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Outrage towards #MuslimBan from Canada, U.K., France, and Germany is thus far bipartisan. Western world set to collectively repudiate U.S.

M0stlyHet Can you post the names of the airlines and companies if to boycott, if you get them?

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Bigger issue with Stalin in the U.K. is that - despite the Cold War swing against Communism - he was Uncle Joe. He was on our side, he was one of the Goid Guys. So he needs to Stay Good. The narrative needs to be simple We Were The Good Guys And The Germans Were The Bad Guys - frequently not even making the distinction between "Germans" & "Nazis". There was a certain amount of suppression of information about the exact extent of the atrocities he carried out, of course, but post-Glasnost there really is no excuse...

Again, with Mao, he had a touch of the folk hero - and the Chinese were The Good Guys, fighting the Japanese. Even more secrecy. Definitely a lot of Othering at play there though.

I'm not sure about the "people like us" - at the time Jews were still othered & now would you see citizens of the USSR as so much further removed? I think there's a lot of collective [inherited] guilt, more than anything, though, in a way there isn't with Mao or Stalin - the feeling that We Should Have Done Something To Prevent It. It's the British version of what drove my Daddy's roommate on his year abroad to apologise to him for the war, but including saying "you know, Name, those things that happened during the war... they had nothing to do with me". Well clearly not, given he was born well after it. But that need to make it clear he had no personal responsibility while still carrying a heavy load of guilt for it... oof.

KLM Thanks Peregrina hopefully a list will go up.

And the entire NY Taxidrivers Alliance (19000 employees) have refused to pick up or drop off at JFK for the next hour (minimum) which is rush hour. Reports that it's going to get very ugly indeed. Add thousands of protesters, and this is shaping up to be an interesting night. Scary, but interesting.

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I wonder how long it will be before Canada needs to extend it's refugee welcome to those of us in the US who are speaking out loudly and protesting against Trump.

He's already shown that he's more than willing to ban US citizens from the country. How long will it be before that ban extends to 'those who don't agree with me'.

The frightening thing is that I'm dead serious.

Iran now planning to ban Americans from entering due to the new "insulting" rule from Trump.

Remember those people who said Hillary was a warmonger

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Trump order begins by invoking 9/11 three times

9/11 hijackers were from Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE & Lebanon

None of those countries banned

Western world set to collectively repudiate U.S.

Except the United Kingdom, of course. We're special friends.

Sinister

Hillary is now the living embodiment of the Kermit tea meme isn't she?

Sadly Trump is the evil!Kermit meme. And always listens to what hooded!Kermit says...

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If only God had left Christians some kind of sacred instructions about how to treat strangers and refugees. . . .

I think I might need to hide out in this thread. We live in the US, though very far north so currently away from most of the protests (unfortunately) and are now US citizens, very concerning. I used to have Russian citizenship too, and British before that.

thanks ginger it is scary and extraordinary.

Except the United Kingdom, of course. We're special friends.

For the sake of world peace I hope the civilised world ostracises both the US Government and ours, in the short term at least. That might shut up May with her twaddle about being open for business and a global leader.

Christ on a bike, I haven't seen much today, this is horrifying.

On a purely personal note, my DS and his gf are in NY, coming back tomorrow. My DD flew into Washington today with classmates on an A Level history trip. She really will be seeing history unfold. Eek, I feel a bit worried and I'm in no way am anxious parent ... She bloody hates Trump, we've been talking politics a lots, let's hope she doesn't get herself arrested.

Place marking in this thread too. Such a great hive of information. Nothing to contribute at the moment as I'm off to bed.

Sleep well tonight. Don't let that bastard grind us down.

I've emailed my Tory MP to say how disgusted I am at the PMs actions. He was tweeting that we should not forget the Holocaust yesterday. I'm not holding my breath for any action from him.