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AIBU to want posters to stop saying that someone 'is' ASD?

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JigglyTuff · 19/01/2017 09:06

It's not a taat because it's across multiple threads. Someone can have an ASD or have autism or even, if you must, be autistic. But no one is ASD.

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PollytheDolly · 19/01/2017 22:03

The disorder part is unnecessary. I believe when you have 'high functioning AS' or are an Aspie, the problems you encounter are largely due to neurotypical expectations, not the condition itse.f

Yep. Bloody NT's Grin

I think in the autism world calling those on the other end of the spectrum NTs is supposed to be a slight insult.

Wrongplanet website is where I learnt that term initially, back in the day.

zzzzz · 19/01/2017 22:08

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PollytheDolly · 19/01/2017 22:08

Polly surely only autistic people can be on an autistic spectrum?

I see the spectrum (and this is maybe just me) as the whole breadth human personality trait. Introversion to extroversion. Introverts have very similar traits to HFAs, I think autism is further along the spectrum (and has it's own section if it) if you see what I mean.

Just how my little brain sees things.Smile

PolterGoose · 19/01/2017 22:12

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PollytheDolly · 19/01/2017 22:13

"High functioning" irritates me FAR more than "is ASD". It's misused and often used to firmly "other" the perceived LFA. It's also misused endlessly to mean "people who can pass for nt". 

Good point re LFA. It's all so complicated with other terms thrown in as they've learnt more about it. Like PDD-NOS, I mean you wouldn't even bother to try to explain to people would youConfused

PollytheDolly · 19/01/2017 22:14

Polter and zzzz

Yeah I know I was trying to keep it simple but it's just not....

F1ipFlopFrus · 19/01/2017 22:15

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Manumission · 19/01/2017 22:15

Polly "neurotypical" (NT) was adopted to avoid using "normal" as the alternative to "on the spectrum". For obvious reasons.

NT is not "on the other end of the spectrum" from ASCs. ASCs are the spectrum and NT is not on it.

Jason have you actually read the thread? Why do you think everything I have said addressing any post is aimed at you? Confused

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Manumission · 19/01/2017 22:16

But the grammar of she is ASD is wrong. That the only thing that bothers me.

Thank you for pulling us back around to the point.

DixieNormas · 19/01/2017 22:17

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zzzzz · 19/01/2017 22:20

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jasonapple · 19/01/2017 22:21

Yes Manumission I've read the thread. I don't think (and I haven't said) that everything you've posted is about me.

You've directed a comment directly at me in which you posted,
'Calling people a disorder is rude. I'm sure you can grasp that if you try.'
I have never called a person a disorder.
So was that post not directed at me after all?

Manumission · 19/01/2017 22:21

I know it's like some weird hippy idea that someone threw in somewhere and it took root(?)

Maybe some people hear "spectrum", think "rainbow" and inwardly start singing some tambourine-heavy nonsense.

Manumission · 19/01/2017 22:27

Okay maybe you just don't know what you're writing jason.

The thread is full of people saying their offspring refer to themselves as being ASD.

You didn't say that. I didn't say you did.

I did say generally that young people saying that would concern me and some of them might need support.

By you've just gone of some explosive rant starting with "wow" and accusing me of misrepresenting you.

None of that concerned you or your posts since you weren't one of the people that said it.

Bubblebathwater · 19/01/2017 22:30

Maybe some people hear "spectrum", think "rainbow" and inwardly start singing some tambourine-heavy nonsense.

Someone's stimming my lord kumbaya Grin

zzzzz · 19/01/2017 22:31

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DixieNormas · 19/01/2017 22:36

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CloudPerson · 19/01/2017 22:36

All autistic people are human, not all humans are autistic.

I'm sure there's a spectrum for humans which everyone's on.
My son is autistic and an extrovert (not that certain experts would accept that that can even happen!)

I much prefer disorder, condition sounds a bit sanitised to me. If you look up the definition of disorder, it fits me perfectly!

As for is ASD I'm pretty sure I've written it by accident without really thing about it, because I've used ASD instead of autistic. I've never said it though, and I don't think I've heard anyone else say it.

zzzzz · 19/01/2017 22:37

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Manumission · 19/01/2017 22:38

Someone's stimming my lord kumbaya grin

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PollytheDolly · 19/01/2017 22:40

Polly "neurotypical" (NT) was adopted to avoid using "normal" as the alternative to "on the spectrum". For obvious reasons.

What's normal anyway?
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NT is not "on the other end of the spectrum" from ASCs. ASCs are the spectrum and NT is not on it.*

I know this. I was just saying how I see it from my perspective.

DixieNormas · 19/01/2017 22:41

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