AIBU to want posters to stop saying that someone 'is' ASD?

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It's not a taat because it's across multiple threads. Someone can have an ASD or have autism or even, if you must, be autistic. But no one is ASD.

It's not really a struggle over phrasing though. It's a bit like someone who has, say, leukaemia. You could say they have leukaemia, or they have cancer. You would never say they are cancer though.

Similarly is epileptic or has epilepsy, not is epilepsy

autisticadvocacy.org/home/about-asan/identity-first-language/ < this is worth a read if any Be is interested in the use of language and autism

Given the number of abbreviations on Mumsnet (most of which I have to stop and think about) this is the least of my worries. I identify as an Aspie, autistic, have an ASC, on the spectrum, have Asperger's, have autism (that less so). I don't mind what it gets described as, though I don't like being classed as "special needs" - that always strikes me as a bit "pat them on the head and talk slowly" sort of attitude. I have different needs but they're not particularly special.

Does it really take significantly longer to type "has asd" rather than "is asd" for those who are saying it's a speed thing? For the sake of one character you're happy to call someone a disorder?

It's a shorthand way of saying someone has something

eg I have diabetes, but I may be referred to as 'a diabetic'. Doesn't bother me.

I know it doesn't mean that's 'all' I am

I guess a lot of it depends on whether you see it as a disability or a difference. My family member sees ASD as a crucial part of who they are and how they think.

There are a bunch of things I say I am... I am asthmatic, I am left-handed, I am creative. None of them alone describe the whole me, they each describe a part of me.

I have 3 children with ASD, and I dont give a flying fuck about peoples bad grammar when talking about it. You have ASD, you are ASD, it changes nothing to me. Much more concerned with peoples shitty judgements over the actual condition

I say I am autistic for the record. It's a strange thing though in many ways because ASD as a condition is a massive part of who we are so I can see where there is confusion.

Hear hear buttfaced & bran

I see my autism as a crucial part too, I generally would say I'm autistic rather than the whole person with autism approach. I might say I have ASD for shorthand.

Not am ASD though.

My brother will tell you that he 'is an aspie'. Up to him really and each to their own.

Statistically, as I said above, my view on it is that my dc are autistic, not 'have autism'.

So no, I am not about to change the way I (and my dc) see the way their autism affects them, and type 'has' instead of 'is'. The autistic/ASD but I also explained - far easier to type ASD, especially on a phone.

It can also be easier for people reading (especially if skim reading/scrolling through quickly) to pick out ASD rather than autistic.

Kaytee, I am talking about general usage. You see it on here where people will refer to adults they don't know, who have obvious severe learning difficulties, as having sn but will refer to someone who has a physical disability, as having a disability.
People have every right to refer to their own condition however they wish.

Again the issue is not about using asd/autistic. I personally do not like has autism for myself.

But there is a huge difference between is autistic and is asd. One is grammatically correct , the other describes a person as being a disorder and is incorrect.

Asd needs to be used in the same way within a sentence as autism, not autistic. That is what the OP is referring to

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It bothers me because ASD is a noun, not an adjective. I'm not the biggest grammar pedant out there, as my own leaves a lot to be desired, but something so wrong at such a fundamental level as "is ASD," "is ADHD," or "is SN" really irks me!

And speed on a phone is irrelevant. Use a particular word often enough and your phone will offer it to you, complete, within about the first three characters.

spikeyball just putting it out there as I've spoken about bil on here before and was worried I was offending someone by saying he has SN.

Purple : It's a bit the same as people saying (about me for example) that I am bipolar. No, I am not bipolar, I have bipolar disorder. But tbh it doesn't bother me. There are bigger issues with ASD (and bipolar disorder for that matter) than how it's phrased.

Actually, it is different from that in quite profound ways. It is more like saying you are Bipolar Disorder . You can (correctly if not necessarily sensitively) say that someone is autistic or obsessive-compulsive, which is closer to calling someone 'bipolar'.

I went to a parent support group, felt we could do with some, it was dominated by a few individuals debating whether it was asc or asd, which diagnostic manual they agreed with, whether aspergers was an 'identity' etc.

To be honest it was the first ever time I've been irritated by the term that is used, listened to a few who appeared to be doing well holding court whilst some of us frankly couldn't care if our dc were called calliflowers as we were so damn sleep deprived. One woman started crying that her dc with LD was nothing like the children being discussed and she clearly felt so alone and desperate in the middle of the waffle.

For the record I use 'is autistic' as it seems to sum her up, I can't separate it from her I guess. It's not easy to say what is just personality and I find it difficult to verbally refer to it as a separate thing that she

Personally I am not comfortable with telling parents how they should refer to their children's disabilities or people with said disabilities how they should refer to themselves. Especially if it derails a thread where someone is posting for support.

Pffft. It's a convenient, if lazy, online shorthand in an age where nounifying adjectives and adjectivising nouns is no longer unusual. I've used "I'm ASD" in the past.

Yeah, it's not in the Oxford Dictionary of English Grammar but oddly for a language nerd, I can't get worked up about it. I saw a teenager the other day shout at her friend "OH MY GODDDDDD ARE YOU AUTISTIC?" Full marks for grammar I suppose but I'd rather deal with the tenor of the conversation about autism.

Memorandibles.

I say I'm autistic as it does shape and define who I am as a person. Without it I wouldn't be me.

I don't use the terms ASD or ASC as autism is neither a disorder nor a. condition. It is just a different way of being and there's nothing wrong with it.

I would never say anything if someone is talking about themselves or a family member. Only when arseholes are using words to be derogatory and disrespectful.