To think it's common sense to let a w/c user have the w/c spot

[SparkyStar84]

I've just seen the ruling on disabled people getting priority in disabled spots on buses. Isn't that common sense. What kind of person would deny a w/c user the space because 'pushchair'?
I'm a w/c user it makes it easier in a way to get about with children, though I know some w/c users still have a buggy.
This is about the parents who refuse to move, when asked, by someone who might have an appt or something important to get too. Not saying the parent doesn't. But isn't that the point of foldable buggies over great big travel systems?
It just bugs me that people have had to leave the bus because a parent wouldn't move. As a parent with kids of many ages, also remembering times gone by, the purpose of easy foldable buggies is that you can decamp when on the bus.
Do you think it's an issue that buses need to provide buggy spaces too?

Soubriquet: Like I say, if there is room that is fine. I have been on plenty of full buses. Obviously if I can safely move I will.

Yes, and if I was arguing that a disabled person should take second priority for multiple parents you would have a point Saor. But I'm not, I completely agree we should get off the bus if we can't fold when a wheelchair user needs the space.

What I'm arguing against is a blanket ban on unfolded buggies and therefore effectively multiples parents regardless of whether or not a disabled person needs the space.

And having two of different ages is in no way comparable to twins!

Clearly I am very unreasonable

It is perfectly possible for you to equip yourself properly to carry your healthy child on a bus, without forcing a disabled person to wait in the street for another bus.

'very unreasonable' doesn't cover it.
'fucking selfish' just about does.

I suppose the thing is that wheelchair users are certainly not immune from MH problems either.

Yes there does need to be spaces for prams

Which should be petitioned for.

But at the moment there isn't. There is a wheelchair space with the chance to use it if it's not needed by a wheelchair

That's it

And no, I wouldn't just hand him to some stranger to hold

And I sincerely doubt most of these posters would either, Mammy.

mammy I laid my babies on s blanket on the ground love. I travelled everywhere by bus and never managed to be so entitled.

Am so pleased to see many of you arguing against trifle's selfish views on this thread.

Thank you.

I would and have done trifle

Where are they going to go?

Then you hold the baby and ask someone else to collapse the buggy for you.

ginger, I assume that disability buggies are exempted from this ruling anyway? I would assume that they were treated in the same way as wheelchairs and had the same priority? It would be interesting to know if that is the case and I hope it is.

Soubriquet: You can do as you please, but no way would I give my 5 week old baby to a stranger on a bus 5 weeks after giving birth. I am shocked that you did, and shocked that this is your expectation.

Is this a new thing? Utter complete entitlement because you push a baby out?

Ffs unbelievable. Get on with it. Like we all did in the past with buggies kids and buses.

I suppose wheelchair users take priority over pushchair because they don't have someone with them that can fold the wheelchair and carry them onto the bus. Like a baby/ small child.

I even let a lady hold my newborn in a restaurant

Bad mummy

But she was over the moon and I really made her day.

She was a very lonely elderly woman who never had children and had no family. I made a smile happen that day and I've never forgotten it

I'm hoping this ruling is extended so that drivers have the right to remove buggies from the bus that are obstruct the wheelchair bay. Whether or not the supervising adult wishes to accompany said overpriced tank buggy would then be up to them.

Purely because of people I've encountered with an attitude like trifle.

Jesus trifle you sound insane sorry.

She won't break or be carried off you know. You have one small baby get a bloody grip.

Try 4 on a bus aged 7,6,2 and 1..

Still have t answered why you won't use a sling, trollfle.

Oops sorry, slip of the tongue.

Agree Bishop enforce it in law otherwise fuck wits always have an excuse to be fuck wits.

How do people get through life if they can't do something as easy as cope with one baby and folding a pram?

5 week old baby to a stranger on a bus 5 weeks after giving birth.

You gave birth?!

Fucking hell everyone. Make way, trifle and her 5 WEEK OLD are getting on the bus. Chuff your arses!

Where are they going to go?

Exactly this. I handed over ds1 to other passengers loads of times on the bus. No big deal. It's not like they can leave the bus with him FFS.

There are easy ways around this:

• use a sling for while you're on the bus
• hand the baby to someone while you're folding the pushchair
• hold the baby and ask someone to assist you folding the pushchair
• make sure when you purchase a pushchair, it's one you can easily take on the bus and fold with one hand
• practise folding the pushchair in your living room (much to the amusement of your dh/dp) repeatedly until you can do it easily with one hand

I've done all of these things and it worked fine, just as it has for loads of other parents.

Why on earth wouldn't you give your baby for someone to hold for less than a minute while you fold your buggy? What on earth do you think they will do?

Disability buggies are generally treated as a wheelchair so I can't see why this ruling would change that.

Assuming you're in London with your mention of Oyster, Stillrabbit?

London bus drivers will issue a paper 'transfer ticket' if for e.g. the bus destination changes or it breaks down. They should certainly issue one in these circumstances and I would put in a complaint if they refused.

Also the wheelchair spaces on London buses are clearly labelled as such. It's not 'down to your own conscience to decide who should take priority'!