To think it's common sense to let a w/c user have the w/c spot

[SparkyStar84]

I've just seen the ruling on disabled people getting priority in disabled spots on buses. Isn't that common sense. What kind of person would deny a w/c user the space because 'pushchair'?
I'm a w/c user it makes it easier in a way to get about with children, though I know some w/c users still have a buggy.
This is about the parents who refuse to move, when asked, by someone who might have an appt or something important to get too. Not saying the parent doesn't. But isn't that the point of foldable buggies over great big travel systems?
It just bugs me that people have had to leave the bus because a parent wouldn't move. As a parent with kids of many ages, also remembering times gone by, the purpose of easy foldable buggies is that you can decamp when on the bus.
Do you think it's an issue that buses need to provide buggy spaces too?

Pickle
...baby in sling, organise bags, put ticket in teeth, fold buggy and sling it over my should with a strap...

And for Level 2, just add '...with one hand, while doing Death Grip on older toddler with other'

By Child 3, I'd perfected the Don't You Dare Move death stare on the older ones.

How did people cope before a unfolded buggy was ever allowed on a bus. When im on the bus any Older people on it always tut when a buggy comes on.

FizzBombBathTime: Simple fact of the matter. I don't expect sympathy, I am just explaining why carrying a week's shopping, a child and a pram isn't an option for me.

Please try to rein in the insults if you want any other replies.

I will when you try to rein in the disabilism. HTH.

yeah sure I'll wait in the rain with the baby cos we're less important than anyone else on the bus

At least the baby will likely have a raincover.

When ds1 was born you had to fold, you just gave the baby to someone else to hold. I don't know why people are so precious about it

Exactly. I've done it loads of times, and I've seen others do it loads of times as well.

If disabled people get some sort of priority in your head, and you want parents to have equal priority...
You do realise you'll still be coming second to all of us disabled parents posting here, as we have double the 'oppression' that you do?

Please try to rein in the insults if you want any other replies

Here's an idea, don't post such bigoted, self centred disablist bullshit and nobody will insult you. HTH.

I'm actually one of those unfit, overweight, lazy people we like to complain about but I managed the whole process.

MommaGee

What on earth are you on about?

I have two children. One still uses a buggy. I use the bus as I don't drive

I'm not vilifying anyone. I'm simply saying, don't sit there bleating about how unfair it is and that we need buggy spaces, do something about it.

Campaign it, petition it, match down the streets with placards if you have to.

Don't take a wheelchair space just because you can

Soar
Once again, very slowly for the PFB lot. You are not less important, but you DO have the luxury of walking and therefore getting to these places in another way.

Actually it would take 3 hrs 45 minutes to walk to my sons hospital. Without stopping to do his feed or change him. So yeah, I won't be walking that cos I'm just too lazy to add an 8 hour walk to my day

FizzBombBathTime: Not disablist in any way. Where I can practically move for a w/c user I will do. I have nothing against disabled people, why should I?

Oh and you do know that supermarkets deliver shopping now? It's great. You go online, you fill your trolley, pay and they bring it right to your house. So no need to be struggling with a week's shopping, baby and a pram like every other parent ever has managed to do since the dawn of time

Trifle then organise better. Online shopping for example, then you're not lugging a week's worth of groceries. Not rocket science.

If you rely on buses to get you to urgent appointments then you need to make sure you have a buggy that can easily be folded.

Nothing against disabled people unless it inconveniences you silightly trifle

MommaGee fair enough. But unless your child needs a specialised pram/buggy which classifies it as a wheelchair, you have no legal or moral right to deny a wheelchair user the only space available to them on a bus.

Here's an idea, don't post such bigoted, self centred disablist bullshit and nobody will insult you.

It isn't bigoted or disablist at all. I have nothing against disabled people or anyone who needs to use the bus as well as me.

If you can't carry your own child, an umbrella buggy and a few bags of shopping, I'd suggest you take yourself off to the doctors.

Sobriquet actually Iaasume im entitled to it cos I have a disabled son, not entirely sire how the law would fall in that one. However I wouldn't expect another mom to get off for me unless it was urgent is low on o2

trifle I am 5 2' and 8 stone. I regularly travelled with a toddler and baby on buses and just managed.

Out of interest why are you so against allowing a fellow bus passenger holding your baby for a few seconds if you needed help? You don't of course but if you did what's the issue?

Do you really really think you and your baby take priority over a person with a life changing disability.

Really really

When i had DS1 i couldn't drive. We purposely bought a particular buggy because of this. It was one which had a huge basket for shopping and couldn't be folded. I was unexpectedly very damaged at the birth of ds1 and left with continence issues and even carrying ds1 in a sling was advised against and walking was painful. I had to attend lots of hospital and physio appointments by bus. I am extremely fortunate that no wheelchair users needed the space when i travelled as i would not have been able to get there.

When i lived in Canada there were separate buggy and wheelchair spaces on buses and this is what is needed here. I hope now this ruling has happened the bus companies finally wake up and realise both groups are citizens and are entitled to be catered for.

I wouldn't have coped at all in the good old days where everyone had to fold their buggies and probably would just not have been able to attend my appointments and lived with incontinence and pain.

It isn't bigoted or disablist at all. I have nothing against disabled people or anyone who needs to use the bus as well as me

I could stamp my feet and argue that the sky is yellow. It still wouldn't make me right though.

If you're lucky, perhaps they'll say you are so badly physically incapacitated that you need a wheelchair?

I have nothing against disabled people,

But you don't mind stealing their space on the bus, right?

Once again, the entitled viewpoint of "I have no problems with disabled people, unless they are inconveniencing me." FFS.