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To not be that bothered by my friends baby?

119 replies

CatchTheRainbow · 15/01/2017 19:53

We are a group of friends from school (mid 20s) and over the last few years with life and responsibilities we don't see each other as much as we once did.

Friend had a baby about 5 months ago and of course I'm very happy for her.

In a group whatsapp she keeps wanting to arrange meet ups because she wants her baby to be part of our group, grow up with us etc.

I'm just not that bothered. I'm happy to see the baby, give presents at Christmas and birthdays but I don't feel like meeting up with a group of friends for their children.

Am I missing something? Am I a bitch?

OP posts:
TinselTwins · 15/01/2017 22:06

So how is the OPs friend supposed to know that despite the OP seeing the child and hanging out with her with the child, depite the OP asking after the child, despite the gifts and remembering the child's birthday etc….. the OP doesn't wanna be part of the child's life and the friend is being weird to suggest she would?

pictish · 15/01/2017 22:06

It's not a case of one or the other. You are being quite superlative in your thinking. It's all or nothing with you.

I can buy my friend's baby a birthday present without becoming a factor in their development. Not wanting to be a factor in their development doesn't equal wanting nothing to do with them.
There is a middle ground. I'm there.

TinselTwins · 15/01/2017 22:07

especially since they're not close friends

Do people on this thread buy presents for all their aquaintances children?

I'm really not getting this, I've never heard of this.

If it's not a close friend, surely you just occasionally make small talk and enquire after them and include their name on Christmas cards?

NightWanderer · 15/01/2017 22:11

I think I do understand what the OP means. Some people when they have their PFB forget that while their baby is the center of their world, it isn't necessarily the center of other people's world.

I have a friend who is childless and in his early 40s. His brother had a baby and his brother and wife obviously adore the baby but my friend while of course politely interested in the baby as an uncle isn't obsessed with it the way his brother and wife are. For his birthday they gave him a framed photo of the baby. Because obviously the millions of photos they posted on FB aren't enough. The baby is pretty much all they talk about. It's just too much, you know? He took a job abroad in the end. I suspect to escape them.

I think perhaps the OP's friend is expecting too much. It's fine to chat about your baby but to expect people to find your baby the most amazing, fascinating thing ever is excessive.

m0therofdragons · 15/01/2017 22:14

I find this really odd. My best friend had a baby 3 months ago and I've just waved them out the house after spending the afternoon here, us meeting their new dd, having cuddles and listening to them talk about their dd. I understand that right now this new life is their world and in their sleep deprived state life's a bit different. I will be in their dd's life as we are friends and their dd will be with them forever more. I'm "auntie". If someone is a real friend surely that means taking interest in what's important to them. It's hardly unsurprising a child is important to your df. First time parents do tend to feel in awe of their dc and assume everyone else is. Just a stage of friendship.

pictish · 15/01/2017 22:16

Again you're being superlative. All your acquaintances' children?
Obviously not.

And again, it's not one or the other. It's not like people have to be either close friends OR acquaintances either. There are differing levels of friendship.

"I'm really not getting this, I've never heard of this."

Try.

BravoPanda · 15/01/2017 22:22

Pictish do you have two accounts or something? Is your name Emma too?

Op has made it clear she is supposedly friends with this woman, not just an aquaintance.

CatchTheRainbow · 15/01/2017 22:22

why would you buy gifts for a kid you want nothing to do with?

Yes because I've said I want nothing to do with her child.

Read what you want to see and all that.

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SalemSaberhagen · 15/01/2017 22:27

Are you Emma OP?

pictish · 15/01/2017 22:29

Emma? Have I missed something?

BadKnee · 15/01/2017 22:30

I have had close friends for 30 years. I did not drag my babies along to meet ups. My friends are still v close friends. We understood that life changes affect a friendship and we worked around it/with it. That didn't mean I had to love all of their boyfriends/kids/businesspartners - nor they mine.

One or two friends did the "love me, love my kids" thing but people - even those of us WITH kids - got tired of it.

MoreBushThanMoss · 15/01/2017 22:33

I don't think she is Emma

It's a shame because I could've sold our story to the DM Sad

TinselTwins · 15/01/2017 22:36

what are you all on about? I'm imagining that the spice girls are on here "anonomously" bitching about who does and doesn't bring the babies to spice girl catch ups :-D

Sunloving01 · 15/01/2017 22:36

*I'm surprised - not that often, thankfully - by people like your friend who think because they find a newborn interesting, so should you. It's a weird sort of entitlement, especially if it's their child.

Unattractive, egoist, and a bit dull, inevitably comes from people who wail 'Now we've had the children no one invites us out'. You don't say.*

*YANBU
I'd do the pleasantries, birthdays etc, but when I meet up with my friends. It's my friends I want to see, not a load of DC.

I have kids Cherry but I don't get it! Care to explain? Or maybe you could just accept that some more interesting people have a life and interests beyond their children.*

*I don't think this is remotely true. I don't see my children as extensions of myself, they are their own people. I don't see why a good friend to me would have to be interested in my children. Lots of people don't get or like children, if they don't have any, why would they want to hang out with mine?

Its this attitude that drives childfree friends away, having expectations of them that are unrealistic*

*I'm not a baby person. Just because my friends have children doesn't mean I should or need to be overly interested in them.

As much as some of you mothers think your child is an extension of you, it isn't. He / She is their own person and it's ok for people to not be interested.

I still love / like my friends who've had children and will meet up with them and their children but I do like to meet them without their kids as well. Because I like them.

Saying they're not real friends because they dont want to be around your kid 24/7 or don't want your child to come to every social gathering is ridiculous. And TBH if you think your kids should always be attached to your hip, I bet your friends, even ones with kids of their own - are like thankgod when they or you decide to stop making the effort to meet up.

I've found when I go out with my friends and they bring their child / children with them that 80/90% of the conversation revolves around their child.

Hearing the same topic over and over ... especially when you're already updated on everything via group messages/facebook gets abit boring/tiring.*

All of this. Some of the replies on this thread are cringeingly entitled and self- absorbed!

OP- I would and have felt exactly the same as you. I'm just not a child person, I feign a basic, polite interest, buy presents etc but that's where it ends. That's where it'll always end. I wouldn't expect or want anymore from any of my friends either.

People need to understand that their bloody children aren't as interesting or important to other people as they are to them.

And to the poster who said their friend recieved a picture of their niece/ nephew as a present, I've had that too but from one of my friend's of their DC. TBH I was a bit Confused because I now feel compelled to display it in my living room and in all honesty I don't really want a picture of someone else's child (aside from niece and nephews) in my living room particularly. I wouldn't dream of doing the same. Just utter madness.

BadKnee · 15/01/2017 22:37

I should say that my friends do show an interest - they care if I am worried about a child and they are happy for my child when she/he does well. They know them both but we do not socialise together with the kids. My time with my friends is for us.

ItsyBitsyBikini · 15/01/2017 22:41

Why don't you see if you can meet up, without baby, and tell her how you feel? Say that you will be there but right now the level of involvement she wants is just not possible for you. You will be more than happy to see her with or without baby. BTW I'm a first time mum, my son is not attached to my hip at all! Too independent now

pictish · 15/01/2017 22:43

I would tend to see a friend without kids, without my kids.

D07062001 · 13/05/2019 17:57

I totally understand. I have a daughter who I love to bits but I have never been the type of person who rabbits on for hours about my daughter and I find people who go on and on about their kids to be incredibly boring. They love their kids. I get it. I love my daughter too but when I meet up with friends or talk to them on the phone, the last thing I want to do is talk about mummy related things. I want to be me - not the mummy me - but the me that gets lost sometimes amidst being a mum. I need to give time to myself and to talk about other things that don't involve my daughter, her school, her activities, the things she does. Being a mum is not all of who I am. It's an important part bit I also need to remember the other side of me and when I am alone with friends, child-free, you better believe I am not going to be rambling about my child. I am going to talk about all things adult because I need that and there's no shame in that. I also don't want to listen to them rambling about their kids either. That is our time to be ourselves.

Frankola · 13/05/2019 19:40

She sounds like she is desperately trying to maintain her friendships and build bonds with the others that have children in the group by getting them to hang out together.

I spend time meeting up with my friends with kids. As do most other mums.

That kind of thing obviously wont appeal to you so much so theres no harm in saying no when she asks you to join.

You're getting very defensive though. There's no need for this to become something so stressful for you.

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