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To want to never go to the cinema again?

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rmrf · 15/01/2017 09:01

Every. Single. Time. I go to the cinema, there's at least one person who talks/texts/crunches through the film and generally does their best to ruin it for everyone. I usually feel too hesitant to say anything as they've already proven themselves lunatics who care not for others.

Last night it was LA LA Land. Absolutely brilliant, gorgeous film, ruined by some tosser who decided to loudly tap his foot throughout every musical number. He wasn't even in time.

I love watching films but AIBU to not spend any more money on going out to see them, because no one knows how to behave politely? We have Netflix, Google and Amazon video I suppose...

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 17:41

They are that.

rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:42

I'm tired of being attacked.

I don't go out of my way to hurt people (and the treatment of Dawn's children is abhorrent), I don't harbour any ill wishes towards people with SN or disabilities. If I think someone is rude, I actively hold my tongue.

I attribute someone being rude to someone just being rude, rather than an underlying reason. Of course if someone tells me that they're unable to help their behaviour I would apologise for asking them to stop making the noise, but I can't assume that there is a specific SN cause for it from the get-go.

If I don't speak to the person, the fact I think they are rude is never shared with them. In fact, I was wondering as it's my problem if I should be the one to avoid the cinema. My DH enjoys it, and I guess that was the basis of my AIBU.

I mean, I can say it no more plainly than that. Perhaps I am very stupid and just will never understand you. This is my limitation.

Dawn did start off calling 'people like me' a nasty fucker, and at a certain point, I can no longer stand being spoken to this way. Again, this is my limitation.

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rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:44

I think you've all been far rude to me, than I have been to anyone else.

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 17:45

If you're feeling got at, or attacked or whatever, you have some tiny understanding of what it feels like for my kids on a daily basis. Because that's the reality of their lives, until people begin to educate themselves and are willing to try to understand. Until then, the only ammunition I have is to try to educate people and to give my boys enough strength to not let the abuse hurt them.

felixthecar · 15/01/2017 17:46

I can't believe the amount of abuse you're getting OP. Fwiw yanbu.

rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:46

Your style of education is extremely, extremely aggressive.

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 17:48

Yes, it probably is. Because I've spent years banging my head off a brick wall and being dismissed by people who don't think it's relevant. If you had to continually labour a point for many years and got nothing but ignorance back, I suspect you'd be pretty aggressive too.

Dawndonnaagain · 15/01/2017 17:48

Dawn did start off calling 'people like me' a nasty fucker, and at a certain point, I can no longer stand being spoken to this way. Again, this is my limitation.
No. I called people on here nasty fuckers, you just assumed it was directed specifically at you.

I have a son with physical (not verbal) tourettes. I have ulcerative colitis. Have you fucking idea what it's like for us to read this shit. I'm sitting here crying. You nasty, selfish fuckers that can't cope with people needing the lavatory or twitching for two hours of your little lives, whilst the rest of us have to cope with it, day in, day out only to discover that actually you'd rather we pissed off and didn't ruin your little outing.
See!

toyd · 15/01/2017 17:49

Saor, I think your aggression is misplaced.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 17:50

Toyd with respect, I apologised to you when you posted your explanation. So I'm not always aggressive, only when people are deliberately ignorant.

rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:54

I am 'people on here'; it's a thread I started. I don't think it's that outrageous for me to assume I am one of the group you were directing that comment at.

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rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:56

I'm not trying to be deliberately ignorant. I am, however, not feeling particularly open to your self-confessed style of aggressive, abusive education.

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rmrf · 15/01/2017 17:58

If someone is not understanding what you're saying, it's possible they are not being deliberately ignorant, but simply don't understand your explanation - or, even, you are having trouble understanding what they're struggling with.

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 18:00

Abusive? When?
I don't care if you're open to it or not. Personally I don't care about anything you have to say, since you so clearly do enough thinking about yourself for the rest of us.
What I will say before I go, is that attitudes like yours are inherently part of the problems faced by people with disabilities/parents of kids with disabilities on a daily basis. The fact that ignorance (in the face of plenty of information) and lack of empathy (which is a choice, however you dress it up) is acceptable in society is what hurts my kids. The fact that it's ok to sideline them, and dismiss them because it suits whoever can't be bothered to think about anything beyond themselves hurts my kids and anyone else who isn't NT.
So I'll keep trying to change things, even though sometimes it feels utterly pointless, because I owe them that.

YoScienceBitch · 15/01/2017 18:00

I find a "shut the fuck up or you can pay for my cunting ticket." Works really well on noisy teenagers.

Riversleep · 15/01/2017 18:06

We have a cavernous cinema thats really cheapo near us where we go for most of our film viewing. it really makes a difference when there are about 500 seats to choose from. But we had vouchers for the art house cinema for christmas, where we usually only go for the cheapy kids films, and the kids kicking the seats were driving me to distraction. And again, the parent wasn't doing anything! I looked around straight at her, my DS looked around, we moved up, it was a row of about 4 kids, all doing it. We had to move in the middle of the film, disturbing everyone else. If the mum had at least told them to stop, it would have been nice!

GabsAlot · 15/01/2017 18:06

last time i went to cinema wa to see spectre-kid in front moving getting up getting more food using their phones just distracted me the whole way through-i dont really go alot and now i know why

Dawndonnaagain · 15/01/2017 18:06

I'm off. Just had a call from A&E and ds1 is there.
Bye.

rmrf · 15/01/2017 18:08

HOW have I caused problems for people with disabilities/parents of kids with disabilities?

By leaving them completely alone? By keeping myself to myself? By wondering if I should avoid going to the cinema in future? By thinking my own, private thoughts based on my own experiences and lack of information in the moment regarding the specifics of someone's motivations? Thoughts which categorically DO NOT involve being horrible about anyone with SN?

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 18:09

Dawn Flowers

skyyequake · 15/01/2017 18:10

No, by notching about it on the internet. By taking those thoughts out of your head and placing them for everyone and anyone to see. If you're going to be ignorant do it in your own head please.

rmrf · 15/01/2017 18:11

I am genuinely not trying to be ignorant. I just don't see my huge crime.

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SaorAlbaGuBrath · 15/01/2017 18:13

OP I can't engage with your feigned confusion any longer. You complain that I am aggressive, yet continually keep coming back to me with more points. Read over the whole thread, your tone was pretty aggressive in the first few pages. You were pretty sure of yourself until challenged, and then decided you didn't understand what we were talking about and dismissed what we were saying as irrelevant and unimportant.
I don't know what you hoped to gain from this thread, but all I've gained is a headache.

skyyequake · 15/01/2017 18:13

*bitching

"I think this."

"No, you're wrong, I still think this, I should have to consider positions of which I have no experience."

^deliberate ignorance.

skyyequake · 15/01/2017 18:14

*shouldn't

(My tablet hates me today)