AIBU to think if your face moisturiser doesn't have an SPF, there's no point?

[GoldAndGlittery]

I can't believe how many high-end lotions and potions cost a fortune and claim to be anti-ageing, but then they don't include an SPF.

AIBU to think there's no point wasting your money on them?

Hmm that's interesting because I heard (a few years back - documentary on beauty 'claims') that the only way a cream is allowed to include anti-ageing In the advertising is if it contains a level of sun protection because that's the only clinically proven method of preventing wrinkles.
I'd assume they do contain sun cream but at a very low level - enough to justify the anti ageing claim but as that's not what they're marketing themselves on, they don't bother to include it on the packaging.

Yabu. If you buy a costly moisturiser it's better if it doesn't have spf, as you're just paying tonnes for an spf! Your better off with one that's got lots of antioxidants and decent ingredients, and buying a decent spectate sunscreen. You don't apply enough moisturiser to get full protection anyway!

There isn't enough SPF in moisturisers to be effective so they're basically pointless anyway

Yabu-there are many formulas that spf can't be added to as it can alter the texture too much or react with an active ingredient. If you need spf, either find a cream that has one in or use a separate protection.

YABU

You 'should' use both, separate items.

I hate that it's so difficult to buy moisturiser without spf.

Yes, when you need it you should wear it but I don't want unnecessary chemicals on my skin and if I'm working indoors 9-5 all winter why on earth do I need sun protection? - In fact the opposite us true, it's important my skin in able to absorb the little sunlight it gets at this time of year.

YABU. Moisturiser with spf lulls people into thinking they're protected when they don't use anywhere near enough product to make it equivalent to using proper SPF.

Interesting!

I would love to buy a nice cream in a set in the sales (though a lot of websites seem to have already stopped their online sales ) yet I can't find anything with SPF in... interesting that this doesn't seem to be a deal breaker for others?!

I had this discussion with the Clarins saleswoman and she agreed. In some countries their day cream does contain spa but not here. It's a way of getting you to buy more products.

That said its almost always spf15 when it is included and theoretically we should be using much higher on the face.

Another here that will always add a separate SPF over my moisturiser because I only need to use a small amount of moisturiser and doubt that's enough to offer the right level of protection. I also use the same cream morning and night and don't want to wear any SPF while I sleep!

YABU Because there's no point wasting money on any moisturiser. It doesn't do anything.

YABU. Use the few hours of sunshine you get this time of year to help your body make some Vitamin D.

I use one designed for treating/helping my acne-ridden skin that works beautifully but doesn't have spf in it, which does worry me, but my foundation does have some and I can use a higher spectrum one if I'm going somewhere sunny.

Which I need to cause I'm very pallid.

Most people don't use enough moisturiser to get the protection of any spf anyway, so most of the time it's better to use a separate spf product. You need to reapply the spf protection anyway and I've not come across many people who reapply moisturiser during the day.

It's better for your skin to use a separate spf and there's barely any spf in any moisturisers anyway.

Eve Lom factor 50, moisturing and smells lovely too

I use a factor 30 facial sun screen after moisturiser.

You won't get enough sun in the UK even if you go outside stark naked. Take vitamin D and use sun screen to keep skin looking younger.

If the sun isn't strong enough to make Vit D, it certainly won't be enough to cause skin damage.

Use a separate spf, like Ultrasun for face or a really good one that I get from Amazon which isn't available here which has a really light watery texture (think is Nivea watery essence or something?) so you aren't a layering tons of thick creams on. It needs to be about 30+ spf anyway and most Day creams won't have higher than 15. Tbf I use my moisturiser in the morning more as a makeup base so maybe look for a good serum and look for anti aging or treatment types in a night cream or things such as an acid toner or exfoliant treatment in the evening. I like a moisturiser to just give a nice skin feel, I use other treatments for the wow ingredients. I think it's unreasonable to expect one cream to pack everything in, anti aging ingredients such as retinol etc won't necessarily work with spf in one cream and actually are best used at night as thy make skin more vulnerable to sun exposure. Spend your cash on a lovely night cream or mask, or something acid based (glycolic or lactic acids) for a 3 times a week treatment and you will have glowing skin and Day moisturiser can just be for texture.

Haha, or I could get a grip and realise that a few wrinkles really don't matter

Here to say what Purple said right off the bat. A moisturiser has to contain SPF to be marketed as 'antiaging'. But it depends what you want your moisturiser to do - mattify, prime/blur, mild anti-bac, etc. Not everyone wears moisturiser to help prevent wrinkles.

I don't wear any and my skin's never been better

Antiaging? WTF is that? anti-ageing

I'm hideously allergic to one or both of the main spf chemicals so its a fantastic bonus for me to be able to buy lots of creams without them in.

Basal cell carcinoma are more worrying than wrinkles.