To be really fed up of people who claim 2016 to have been a 'horrific' year....

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Because, sadly, some famous people that they have never met have died? Once again social media is awash with 'fuck off, 2016', 'you'd better not take x, you or z from us' and 'this year is truly testing me now it has taken.....'
It gives me the rage. Firstly, I think the grief belongs to the families who have lost a person, not a celebrity ideal. But, secondly, I just think that, if the worst thing that has happened to you personally is that someone in the public eye has died, then you've been pretty lucky. Thirdly, so many other awful things have happened in the world; terror attacks, plane crashes, Syria, Aleppo, Donald Trump. Yet people don't seem to feel the same outrage. I will admit, I've had an awful year, starting with the loss of our baby at 13 weeks pregnant in January, followed by a huge crisis in my marriage and the loss of a loved one. I guess that could all be clouding my judgement. I dunno. I just hate social media inspired competitive grief I guess. Feel free to flame but I'd be really interested to know if others feel the same.

Rather than a feeling of competitive grief, I feel a sense of camaraderie when I see my newsfeed saying, 'ah come on 2016, fuck off with all this shit'. I can imagine sitting in the pub with friends, listening to DavidvBowie, Prince et al on the juke box, moaning about Brexit and Trump and Syria and our own personal shit, and getting pissed and maudlin and laughing all at the same time, holding on to each other while giving 2016 the finger and shouting 'FUCK YOU 2016!!' as we stagger home arm in arm.

OP I also lost my baby at 13 weeks this year and upon seeing all the "fuck 2016" messages on fb this morning, felt exactly the same as you have expressed in your op. Whether it's U or not I couldn't give a flying fuck, but at least I now know it's not an unheard of reaction.

Sorry for your losses

I dunno....for me personally it been a great year.

Politically things haven't been great, and the world has lost some amazingly talented people.

But the only friends of mine to say 2016 has been an awful year are those dealing with the deaths of close family members and cancer diagnosis. I totally appreciate they may went to gave a grumble.

2016 has been pretty much a universally bad year for people I know, on personal levels - let alone politically or world event wise. There are some people who have had some real joyous moments - new babies, successful planned operations giving new leases of life, etc. But even those people have had touches with close deaths/serious illnesses of others. Most will see a celeb death and lament publicly the shittiness of 2016, without posting their own struggles. For some who've had truly awful times it provides an grief outlet whilst diverting from themselves. Everyone is fighting their own battles.

This year has been the worst of my life but I can still appreciate it has been bad for people who are upset at celebrity - part of their growing up fabric - deaths.

Personally for me it's been an okay year in parts and a great year in others. But there has been an awful lot of grief and sadness and stress and worry that I have observed in others, globally and personally, so even if my year has been pretty okay it saddens me that for so many of my friends and the world as a while that it the same thing can't be said for them.

Awfully sad and troubling things, wars, atrocities, natural disasters, the loss of well loved and respected famous people happens every year but this year does seem to have excelled itself on all counts.

whole not while!

Thirdly, so many other awful things have happened in the world; terror attacks, plane crashes, Syria, Aleppo, Donald Trump

I think this is as much to do with 2016 being a dick as the demise of celebrities.

Sorry for your losses, op. No intention of flaming.

You'll probably find though, that those people are fighting battles you know nothing about. Grief is not only about losing someone close.

Grief is also when your world changes into something that you couldn't foresee. My dd has been having HUGE difficulties this year, and it changed the way we live, we will settle down once we have some answers, but I grieve that my/our life/s will never be the same again. I grieve for what I once thought it would be.

Grief is when your child is born with disabilities that you didn't know about.

Grief is when a relationship of significance ends/changes

In my case, with the passing of GM, I had a very over the top reaction to this news, and cried like I'd lost a friend (which I have, recently). On talking to my dh, he said that my reaction was possibly a culmination of the grief in other areas of my life, having a somewhat more tangible outlet.

I don't think anyone should pass judgement on grief. GM was a massive part of my childhood, a time that I sometimes wish I could revisit when things get hard at home, because it was so much simpler then.

If you think it's a good year, you've failed to understand the devastating implications of brexit and trump. The next few years are going to be v difficult.

Can I get away saying it was a bad year, Df died unexpectedly and I in an accident?

I've not rtft but, but all the 'you've gone to far now 2016' posts on Facebook are making me cringe a bit too.

It's just that as the years go on, the celebrities we knew when we were younger get older, so naturally they will start passing away at some point.

Surely it is possible to be in the midst of personal sorrow, fears over global events, saddened by the death of an artist who meant more to you than a flicker on a screen, and then rage at stubbing your toe - we're not made into 2 neat halves of happy stuff/sad stuff.

It has been a really shitty year sorry and I'm not talking about the celebs and it's really sad (I had a soft spot for Alan Rickman) but we also lost my brother in law from cancer. Then there was Brexit, then the attack in Nice, there was Bruxelles too ! Syria, Trump, the loss of Jo Cox in a most awful way...sorry but it has been an especially shitty year.

Absolutely agree.

2016 has been shit on a personal level.

There does seem to have been a lot of celebrity deaths this year, I really feel for their families

I think the dead celebs come on top of the heartbreaking scenes from the refugees in the Mediterranean in the summer, Aleppo in recent months and real political upheaval in just making people feel like 2016 has been a very unsettling year. Today people will be all about George Michael but really it's not about him as a man (few really knew him) it's about how the world is changing and how life is so much harder and more complicated for most of us now than it was in our Wham fan youth.

Nicely said, museummum

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For me it's that I am ill (seriously) and am facing surgery that has a chance of killing me. I am sensitive about death and the effect it has on others.
So for me it's not Been a great year and some celebs have died and that's hit A nerve. It's a personal thing.

Doesn't this say more about your friends though? Out of all my social media contacts only two have mentioned George Michael. Same with other celeb deaths. A handful posted about Brexit, Trump etc. I posted about women's issues. It's whatever you're interested in. All your friends sound interested in celebs.

Exactly it Museum.

A different slant on it from me: From experience I know that what I have to say will result in one, some or all of the following: a) the thread will die. b) I will get absolutely slated. c) I will be accused of being a crazy conspiracist, scaremonger. d) will be told I know nothing about it even though I have first hand experience. e) will be told there are hidden concerns which only SS know about. f) damned if they do, damned if they don't. g) ignored as if all the wrongly removed children don't even exist. h) accused of listening too much to the likes of JH, Josephs,etc, as if I can't possibly have a mind of my own. j) what the Barrister said is being taken out of context. So, for me 2016 has been yet another year that most people have closed their eyes to the fact that in this country children are being removed from their families for no reason. However, finally a MN Barrister, Spero, has admitted on MN, 14/12/16 at 07:10 that "we are now very firmly in the "child rescue narrative" and the focus is on removal rather than support".

People have always mourned the passing of artists and we always will.

Making art and being touched by it is part of what sets human kind apart. It is our consciousness made manifold.

Perhaps it is the one thing about us that will endure.

Maybe filter out the Social media fluff? Like my dad says, if people aren't nice to you on Facebook... then maybe just don't go on Facebook. There isn't much other news this morning (that is a good thing, if you think about it) so the big media focus on G-Michael. Plus always a media end-of-yr frenzy in late December on events of past yr & there is plenty to be unhappy about.; for some reason, unhappy news sells more than good news.

People focus on the Slebs because they are tangible and their fandom transcends other ideologies, so unifying. I don't know WTF to say to my colleague who comes from Aleppo so I don't ask. I don't mind the celeb deaths (okay, maybe Alan Rickman :( ). Because most of them had long great lives so nothing to be sad about.

For all those who have had their children wrongly removed instead of supported, now that's what I would call a truly " horrific" year.