Does everyone want to live in the US?

[AteRiri]

I was talking to an American friend and he made this blanket statement, "Everyone wants to come here!"

Is this true?

As for the pledge of allegiance in schools, as a card-carrying old lefty, I have always objected to that. But children can't be forced to do it. The Supreme Court has ruled that laws requiring children to participate violate their right of free speech and expression.

On the other hand, a poster on another thread pointed out that the last words of the pledge are "liberty and justice for all." It's far from being achieved, of course, but not so bad really for children to ponder it as an aspiration.

Nope .. my dh works for an American company and life would be a lot easier if we lived there but I won't go .

Having said I wouldn't want to live in the US, when I was a teenager I did really want to go to a proper American high school with wide corridors, lockers and hanging out at the mall after.
My local comp with school uniform just seemed so boring in comparison ( I def watched too many t.v. series)

Speaking of school uniform, it does seem odd to me and to a lot of Americans that a country that is so much more to the left than ours has such an obsession with making children conform in that way.

To me the uniform is great as it takes away any stress about being able to afford the "right" labels etc which have no place in a classroom. It's not so much about conformity more a leveller.

SenecaFalls - I'm not sure if school uniform is really a left/right issue, but it is a curiously British thing.

Parts of the US are definitely more left than the UK on some issues though (marijuana legalization and assisted suicide spring to mind).

Its bottom of my list of places to visit

In fact it's not on my list of places to visit!

May I apologise for my thoughtless post. I do not like what I know of America the country and so never want to go there. But it was a twattish comment on my part as I don't know that many Americans so obviously can't !oathe them all just the couple I knew. Apo!ogies all Americans reading.

I understand the leveling notion, busyboys, but when I go to the UK and see large groups of children dressed exactly alike, it appears so regimented and even to a certain extent almost military.

Apology accepted, Plymouth. I take it though that your nickname references the one in England and not the one in Massachusetts.

Yes Seneca it does. Thank you for accepting my apology.I should engage the brain more before typing.

I lived there for a year. I don't want to go back to live, I prefer the UK. I haven't been back for over 20 years, not even for a holiday. I had a good time living there and met some great people but there were too many things I didn't like.

The USA is a vast network of different mini 'countries'. I've never been but would like to visit Boston and New York. I love Italy but would never want to live there.

Not a chance. I would never ever choose to live in a country where children, babies are seen as acceptable collateral damage to the right to own a gun. Where bullet proof backpacks are a 'thing'.
I do not hate Americans, or even dislike them. The way that nothing seems to exist outside of the US to many amazes me. And the true belief that they are the absolute best in the world blows my mind. I look at this every week or so and wonder how the things that go on there can actually go on there!
www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/jun/01/the-counted-police-killings-us-database#
I have many good American friends who I would like to visit again but I won't step foot in Trumps America. I feel like America has shown the world who they really are and I just can't go there. Does anyone really think it is just the EU that feels this way. I can guarantee the whole WORLD is feeling it.

Nope,UK has it faults but it is my home

Then again, the USA Is one colony we should have kept 😀👍

I feel like America has shown the world who they really are and I just can't go there.

This is a good time to point out that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. Trump by no means has a mandate; the majority of voters having voted against him.

I think I have met one American that I like. One. This includes family lol.

And I don't want to live there, especially now they've elected Trump. I think I'd actually fear for my life.

This is a really unpleasant thread with a mass of sweeping generalizations.
The majority of Americans want some kind of gun control. The majority did not vote for Trump. The majority support legalisation of soft drugs. The majority support some kind of justice reform including the removal of mandatory sentencing for non violent offences. The majority support gay marriage and equality. The majority think that the current healthcare system is not efficient and would like something else. But hey. Let's lump millions of people into the same basket and then be rude about them.

I feel like America has shown the world who they really are and I just can't go there

This is a good time to point out that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes. Trump by no means has a mandate; the majority of voters having voted against him

I get that, I do but yet, here we are. He is President-elect.

This is a really unpleasant thread with a mass of sweeping generalizations.
The majority of Americans want some kind of gun control. The majority did not vote for Trump. The majority support legalisation of soft drugs. The majority support some kind of justice reform including the removal of mandatory sentencing for non violent offences. The majority support gay marriage and equality. The majority think that the current healthcare system is not efficient and would like something else. But hey. Let's lump millions of people into the same basket and then be rude about them
Clearly, the 'majority' don't. I imagine that it would be uncomfortable hearing some of the things on this thread if one is American but isn't is also worth noting what the perception actually is? Something is seriously wrong and the effects WILL be world wide.

I feel ashamed reading these posts. Such ignorance.

'Healthcare is great, my work pay for it'

Same thing with friends of ours. They live in Boston, local health care facilities are MIT /Harvard run so services are second to none. They positively raved about the care.

They are both in incredible jobs, over $200k per year each.

Good for them, obviously.

Wouldn't like to be the poor black guy in Mississipi with mental health problems and no job. I'm sure he wouldn't get quite the same care. But he should, obviously.

This is the main reason I wouldn't move to the US. It's elitist, basically.

these posts. Such ignorance

It's not ignorance, it's the way the world views the US, in light of many recent events people's opinions are informed by the news they've consumed, I don't think calling all of that ignorant ir useful - it'd be be more useful to wonder why people have formed the opinions they have