That people in the south think they are better than those in the north

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That's it really.

I'm interested in your opinion.

I'm from London,lived in lancashire for 11 years. I don't think I'm superior at all. I'm just me who speaks posh (so I'm told but I'm not posh lol) when I go to see my dad in London he tells me I've a northern twang yet when I go back home everyone tells me I speak like the queen lol

I didn't grow up in the UK. Before I moved here in my teens, the only spoken English I encountered was expat English, which comes in two varieties - vaguely American and cut-glass RP.

My own accent is very RP simply because that is how I have learnt to speak. My grandparents are from the North.

As PPs have said, I've never met a southerner who thinks they are better. I have, however, met quite a few northerners who are under the impression southerners think they are better. Having not even grown up in the UK I was a bit bemused to be referred to as a 'posh London bitch' and a 'snobby jumped-up cow' on trips up north....

I'm from the far far north. Never noticed any southerners being snobby, but I do notice a wee bit of snobbery the other way. Southerners do sound a bit posher when they speak though

I live about far south as you can possiby get but here is one road which is slightly more 'southern' than ours ..

They are definately posher than us!! .. There!! Evidence

( I have lived in the north west and the north east though, and yes a few people did comment that my voice was 'posh'.. )

The only person I know, that is really snobby about where they're from, is from Yorkshire. Not sure that my sample size of 1 counts for much though...

So, you are judging southerners en masses for apparently judging northerners en masse...?

Would love a bag of chips.

You are all from the South, love from Scotland.

So it's looking like southerners don't think they are better but northerners think they think they are better.
I have been called a 'Southern softie' and similar, several times when I have gone north of Brum but I have never retaliated. Does that make me a better person?

I think I will start a new thread...

Why do people in the north have a chip on their shoulder?

Because that's my experience. Apparently, we are all richer, have better jobs, more choice, blah, blah, yawn, blah. No mention of hideous commutes and crippling house prices

Talk of "the north" and "the south" as one homogeneous mass is just daft.

Plus we're in Scotland and to me, "the north" the OP is talking about IS "the south". So there.

FannyFifer .

This thread has reminded me of my BIL mimicking me at the lunch table by saying "pass the butter please" in a mock posh accent 😡. I then commented to SIL that he seemed to think I was snobbish and she said "of course you are" . No love lost there.

They are from the Midlands. I grew up as an expat abroad and have a generally RP/southern kind of accent.

The North begins at the Tees and ends at the Tyne - north of which is savage country. Civilisation consists of County Durham in its genuine pre-'72 boundaries. Hartlepool is of course the high water mark of that civilisation - and recent research has conclusively established that the monkey was a French spy.

I've certainly seen a good bit of snobbery towards Northerners, but it has generally tended to come from a fairly small group of people - Home Counties Daily Mail reading types, who tended to be equally twattish about Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Asian and gay people. And probably plenty of other groups, too.

And I now live in Yorkshire, which is full of people who believe that Yorkshire is better than anywhere else. I have to admit, I agree with them, which is why I live here. I know that non-Yorkshire people find that Yorkshire patriotism incredibly annoying, but I don't think it's meant the way it often comes across - Yorkshire patriotism is a bit like believing that you have the best husband and children - you love them and think that they are clearly and obviously the best, while simultaneously knowing that other people think that their partners and children are the best, and they are right, too.

House prices - fair enough, but you can't have the monopoly on commutes. In Cornwall I did a 2 hour commute each way (some of it stuck behind people doing the John o'groats to Land's End cycle dressed as a cow, when all I wanted was to have a cup of tea and see my kids) and in Yorkshire it's 1 1/2 hours on a good day and 2 on a bad day. It was 15 minutes when I lived in the South East.

Never heard anyone say anything about people being richer / better jobs / more choice etc FWIW, I don't think that is the case at all.

I live very south of Watford gap.

In about 20 minutes I'm about to drive north of it.

I'll let you know if I'm superior to the people living there when I arrive

I'm from the south coast, DH a Yorkshireman. I met him when living up there and he used to say all kinds of things like 'I don't suppose you'll have ever seen unbroken snow before' and 'I suppose you won't have seen PROPER woods' and all kinds of comments about being 'steeped in history' where he grew up.
I've lived in various places around England, and of them all, Yorkshire has a real air of 'we're better than anyone' snobbery.
I couldn't settle and we moved down south, where DH is happy enough, but still won't drink the water after 10 years

Welll... that was a pointless read. Some people sometimes have some opinions on some other people, who are sometimes from the north and sometimes from the south but never from the midlands.
You're all northerners to me. Devon and Cornwall is the south 😂

Oh and it's irrelevant but I LOVE a guy with a broad northern, proper northern accent. Best thing ever. Well, after Irish and proper Devonshire but it's certainly up there!

Well there are some really nice spots south of the river......i like to live north of the Thames though

What you mean people exist outside the m25??????

I am a Londoner.
Apparently that makes me part of some sort of Elite cabal running the country and taking all the good stuff.

The ignorance about the lives of ordinary Londoners is incredibly tedious. Its a crime to not understand what its like for people living in Bradford or Glasgow apparently. Its perfectly find to not have a scooby about living in Newham.

I am pretty sure some people think we all live in pink and blue rendered Victorian town houses set around squares. Everyone can see The River from their bedrooms and its always a short stroll to catch the game at Wimbledon.

That is what comes of watching too many made for the US movies.

I don't think people who haven't had negative experiences should ignore the people who have.

I am a northerner (north west), living in the south east. I've seen it go both ways but it does happen.

I've lived (for minimum of a few years in each) in Merseyside, London, Bath, Hertfordshire. Low on Scottish/Welsh/NE/Midlands experience though.

At school, up north, people did take the pee out of the one southerner for his accent.

Down here, I have had colleagues mocking my accent and my vowels and occasionally calling me a thief for ten years. It is boring. But it does happen.

Can't remember any negativity while in Bath.

Ime some northerners are negative about southerners because they are assuming southerners think they're better.

Ime many southerners have never been up north and judge it by films and tv that focus on 'grimness'.

Having lived in a few areas of the UK I think it is pretty much the same all over. Areas of depreciation in most big cities. Nice areas in most places. The average large three bed semi will be on a street that look pretty similar to any other with similar type houses on. All that changes is the accent (massively generalising).

OP started with some vagueness but their experiences should not be dismissed.

depreciation was supposed to be another word!

When I worked for a national company I was told by several London based colleagues that they considered northerners to be common.

I don't really know anything about the north or spend any time thinking about it.

I think this is really common around the world - the area (country, island, geographical split) next to the economic and political power house gets bitter and jealous and spends too much time thinking about what the "other side" think of them whilst the "other side" get on with their life without a second thought. see also: Scotland / England, Canada/ USA, New Zealand / Australia to greater and lessening degrees.

The ignorance about the lives of ordinary Londoners is incredibly tedious. Its a crime to not understand what its like for people living in Bradford or Glasgow apparently. Its perfectly find to not have a scooby about living in Newham

This.