That people in the south think they are better than those in the north

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That's it really.

I'm interested in your opinion.

Brewdolf all the chippies near me offer gravy! I'm in Surrey!

How did you check Nerr?

And to answer the main question - I think it's mostly just friendly banter. My boyfriend is as northern as they come, I'm from leafy Surrey and our friends and family all get on like a house on fire.

I have to say though, it can be bloody cold up north. Went to a bbq this summer near Middlesborough and I was in a coat the whole time

Manu I looked at Google maps and took Watford Gap services as the line. Looks like I'm only just south though- I clearly live in the north of the south.

Ah. We must all do this and form a hierarchy of northern southerners and southern northerners etc

I am clearly better than you and from the South and you are from the North, so you are right and I am also right in thinking that!

Well as a midlander who's lived all over the place the south is a nicer place to live.

I assumed you were in Hull, NerrSnerr, because of your name.

I'm a northerner. Yorkshire to be exact. I went to London for the first time ever and came back pregnant so if say they quite like us northerners

Though they are southern softies

Not from my experience. My sil from down south. We used to live up north. When we visited she never offered you a cup of tea on arrival or a sandwich. Very poor hospitality. Luckily my brother is a good northerner. And no gravy in a chip shop??? What the fecks that all about?

Another non-existent Midlander here .

I love the south (mainly south west) and north equally. I couldn't live in London though - I can't cope with people who speak as though the whole world needs to hear them . Jokingly throwing in another sweeping generalisation there.

All these people thinking Watford Gap is the marker between north and south are wrong.

The official start of the North is where the M6 meets the M1 (imagine a line of latitude through the junction). My dad said so, so there

And, as a pp said, the phrase is "North of Watford" not Watford Gap. It's supposed to be used in an ironic way because there's quite a lot north of the Watford that it refers to.

I have lived in the North (well North West), in the midlands and in the South. People are people wherever - all sorts in all places.

And in reply to a pp - there are posh and not posh areas wherever you live.

I have lived in the North (well North West)

Many people recover even from that, you know!

Broomstick I was brought up in Hull. Moved away when I was 18z

Well I reckon I'm in line with Watford Gap services. Do I get a special prize?

You get appointed peace negotiator in chief basic 😄

As I said before, I'm fairly sure the only people who think they are better because of where they live are the kind of people you wouldn't want to know anyway.

I was joking about the SE paying for everywhere else, but in terms of tax take, London pays 30% of all the taxes in the UK, even allowing for an equal distribution of Corporation tax to each area by its per capita population.

So 30% of the tax, 12% of the spending, 13% of the population. London does actually pay its way.

I like the northern southerners and southern northerners manumission.

Maybe my perspective is warped because I sound like I come from the Home Counties, so I wonder if people assume I'm originally from the South and then "wonder" why I moved North often with this somewhat aghast and bemused expression.

I should maybe confess at this point I was born in the Midlands .

London does actually pay its way

But I work for a company that has its HQ London. A lot of people in the 'provinces' do. So we are in effect paying for Londoners?

Thanks Andrewoffg

I still live here now (in fact I was born here).

"But I work for a company that has its HQ London. A lot of people in the 'provinces' do. So we are in effect paying for Londoners?"

No because the effect of corporation tax was distributed across the country per head of population, and in terms of tax corporation tax is only worth 9% of total tax receipts, so even if we remove it completely London contributes more than it gets.

I think southerners think theyre more affluent and current. But northerners aleays refer themselves as more friendlier and more relaxed.

Depends on what attributes you personally think make someone better.

even if we remove it completely London contributes more than it gets.

I'm sure that's true. But the point up thread was that some small areas of London would be a drain and some small areas in the North would be contributors. That still absolutely holds. How a multinational company's tac can be equally divvied up amongst the UK population escapes me, but I concede I am not a corporation tax expert.

TBF, I have the report but CBA to read the methodology again. In terms of area tax contribution it works out that cities generate about 65% of the tax take, and London contributes just under half of that.