@amispartacus
As a headmistress, I see that there is a difference between the genders and it isn't due to conditioning from birth, it's intrinsic
Yet you go on to suggest that girls struggle compared to boys with, for example, presenting.
I'm surprised to hear a headmistress say that. Teaching is definitely one area where there is still a lot of hidden messages towards boys and girls, how teaching styles affect those people (especially girls) who lack confidence, who don't want to put their hands up, who worry about presentation etc. I hope that you encourage your teaching staff to ensure that their teaching methods help girls to learn.
I do. Equally, I expect teachers to change their methods to suit boys or anyone else in the class for that matter. Lets not forgot that girls are out performing boys in the classroom, uni and beyond. This is however lost of feminists who only care about poor women whilst declaring it will help boys too.
Their choice - is it? Is it a choice made from free will, without external pressure, societal expectations, social conditioning etc etc
Of course it is free choice to have children. There's similar pressure on men to return to work and support thier children and wife. Do you know why? It's largely due to the fact that they don't have wombs or boobs!
There's domestic violence toward men and women
Overwhelmingly towards women.
True. Infanticide is largely by women but I'm yet to see large groups of men protesting about women and children being left alone together.
Plenty of evidence why girls are put off science... Seen as a 'male' subject. Mainly boys in the class. Male teachers. A culture where the teachers don't see girls as being there.
Physics is largely a male subject. It's suited to fairly lazy boys who can learn a few formulas and how to use them and get fairly good grades. Girls tend to do better than boys in biology. Chemistry tends to be for the most intelligent which tends to be boys.
One look at MN would lead one to suspect women are judged far more than men.
You're coming across as far too intelligent to pretend that MN is a true representation of real life.
I am sure most people would like more gender equality, wouldn't they?
But that Isn't what feminism means. It's now, as someone else said, taking from men for the promotion of women. Positive discrimination and blaming an entire sex for our issues.
amispartacus
I'd just love for girl to say at least one thing they think feminists want.
Can I answer this?
I believe feminists want equality of outcome when it suits but, hypocritically, not when it doesn't. They want priviledge at the expense of others. They want to blame everything that is wrong in the world on men and they believe that they and only they are right. The believe there's a special place in hell for women who don't support other women and they feel entitled to whine and moan about everything that goes wrong in their lives and instead of taking control, growing a pair and sorting it out, blame nasty violent men.
@Oswin
Every single woman in my life has been either assaulted or sexually assaulted by a man.
Raped, stabbed , punched, kicked, slapped. Murdered.
I don't know any. I'm sorry if that happened but I'm not sure what you want me to say. As I said, No women I know have been assaulted (sexually or otherwise) by a man.
@Hotmail
If you like having access to a vote, education, a range of jobs, contraception, abortion, domestic violence legislation, equal pay legislation then you're lucky. Because feminists fought hard for those rights for you.
They did, thank god. We could extend equal pay legislation into equality legislation though and then we can happily agree that those amazing women won the battle.
@lastgirlontheleft
it might mean they have never experienced men's sheer unadulterated hatred of them, just because they were born female.
Absolutely. I can't for a second imagine it as as I'm likely to have has as much experience of men as you ie. meeting and interacting with them, it suggests that this isn'ty men as a whole, but a few.
lassWiTheDelicateHair
*Don't like being told I'm weak because I don't want to chase a career
The issue is that some posters think opting out of a career to have children has to be accommodated in some way should you want to opt in again so that you don't miss out compared to women who don't.
Are you for this or against it? We have maternity leave. I think anything else is ludicrous. If you make a choice putting child-bearing above you career then you are choosing to miss out on the career side.
@girlwiththeflaxenhair
The gap in educational attainment is a very recent and unless you believe that girls are just smarter than boys then there could not be any other explanation for it.
Girls tend to occupy the middle ground in IQ tests (which I'm well aware aren't perfect) whereas the brightest and dumbest tend to be boys. With the decrease in things like grammar schools and children all lumped in together, the brightest are held back giving the middle (girls) more opportunity to do better by comparison. A great example of feminism enabling girls at the expense of boys.
Wow, that's a long post! I had lunch in the middle!