To lol at the feminism threads....

[Hannah4banana]

Seriously are people constantly looking out for a way to be offended first world problems!

And incidentally, I agree with you that a lot of popular self-proclaimed feminism is quite bad.

And incidentally, I agree with you that a lot of popular self-proclaimed feminism is quite bad.

In August 1914, at the start of the First World War, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather.

The White Poppy campaign is run by Peace Pledge Union.
The PPU emerged from an initiative by Dick Sheppard, canon of St Paul's Cathedral, in 1934, after he had published a letter in the Manchester Guardian and other newspapers, inviting men (but not women) to send him postcards pledging never to support war.[2] 135,000 men responded and became members. The initial male-only aspect of the pledge was aimed at countering the idea that only women were involved in the peace movement.

So while some women were involved in the White Feather movement, others were involved in the Peace Movement.

Quick, before you go, what's your opinion on asking for a partial refund from an ebay seller who sent me a broken item? It's something I can repair (visibly busted zip), so I think only partial. But still. Syria, right?

Take a leaf from Asia Ramazan Antar's book. Died at 22 wielding a heavy MG fighting her oppressors. Better role model than a sheltered middle class feminist whining about the colour pink

Sorry for the triple post, browser glitch.

Oh and Malala Yousafzai. Shot in the head and still going. Made of strong stuff, not cotton wool like these westerners

Miss

You are being rude. And dismissive. To other women. Not things that help the women of the Middle East.

What's dismissive is not teaching your daughters about these incredible women in the middle east

Well none of that alters the fact that more men are likely to end up on the streets.

But it's a bit dodgy (putting it mildly) to suggest that these men are all on the streets out of some sort of personal choice. That they in some way brought in on themselves. Being on the streets is hell on earth and no one would do it if it were avoidable. And men are more likely to be physically attacked than women.

You could equally suggest it's because male areas of employment have been harder hit by the recessions of recent years and more men are unemployed.

Take a leaf from Asia Ramazan Antar's book. Died at 22 wielding a heavy MG fighting her oppressors

I think anyone today who speaks out about feminism is a role model. What do you think of the abuse, rape threats etc that women get online who speak out about anything vaguely feminist?

I admire those women who do speak out about feminism. Even the 'trivial' issue of pink seems to get people's back up. Anyone who is brave enough to speak out today gets my support and I look up to them.

It seems a lot of people are scared about women speaking up - and do all they can to silence them.

You could equally suggest it's because male areas of employment have been harder hit by the recessions of recent years and more men are unemployed

Interesting. There was a survey done in Wales - many men would rather be unemployed than do 'women's work' such as cleaning or working in a supermarket.

No, miss you are deflecting, as you have done throughout this thread. You are being dismissive - why do you feel the need to run down other women's opinions?

I teach my son about feminism every day.

iloveeverykindofcat of course people are capable of empathy, generosity, bravery and everything else.

But are you seriously suggesting there is not a human tendency to abuse power? That's rubbish. I'm not saying it can't be overcome - just that it's there and it isn't peculiar to men.

What's dismissive is not teaching your daughters about these incredible women in the middle east

How do you know people aren't doing that? DS knows about her. He is also being brought up with 'feminist' views - and I hope he is taking them on board.

I dont know how some of you have the patience, i really dont

I have typed loads of posts and have had to delete them all due to excessive swearing and name calling

The outright lying...honestly!!! I dont get it

It is batshit over here
I'm totally baffled. Hope the MRAs are enjoying themselves though

I'd love to see a western feminist so much as pick up a toy gun let alone a heavy killing machine that is instrumental in ME women's liberation

This, from the Daily Mail, is apparently proof positive that feminists were behind the "White feather" campaign.
"Who were the women goading men in this way? Some may have been suffragettes. They found their voice campaigning for votes for women and now brandished their girl-power on other matters. Others were war widows and mothers with sons at the front aggrieved that other young men were out of harm’s way.
But it is hard to resist the conclusion that a large contingent were young women enjoying a sense of empowerment the war brought.
Flappers was how some victims described the girls who humiliated them, which, in those days (before its better-known use in the Twenties) denoted what The Times called ‘a young lady who has not yet been promoted to "

I'd love to see you stop talking utter rubbish but it seems it ain't going to happen
Are you suggesting we should all decamp to the ME to fight too? I'm a bit confused about what you are actually talking about. Are you drunk?

I'd love to see a western feminist so much as pick up a toy gun let alone a heavy killing machine that is instrumental in ME women's liberation

I can recommend the Nerf Zombie Blaster.

Of course, we could ask why there's been so many wars in the past. And why women in the Middle East have been treated as second class citizens. Why women in the West have had the same experience in the past? What the root cause is?

Well amisparticus, may I challenge you're actually very Daily Mail/Norman Tebbit 'they're just too bloody lazy to work' argument with my own personal experience.

Last year I was made redundant, and as I got a very small settlement I had to get a job fairly quickly. I applied for several cleaning jobs and heard nothing back. I also applied for umpteen jobs in cafes, shops and everything else. Nothing. They obviously didn't want a 35 year old man serving in New Look. I applied for a job a day for two months.

Eventually i managed to get a job in a supermarket on the checkouts. Since then I have been eating on twenty-pounds a week while carrying on with my studies, and I have chronic health problems.

However, if I had not had my settlement, the support of my parents and somewhere to live then I could have needed up on the streets.

Are you telling me that that would have been my fault because I didn't apply for enough jobs as a cleaner?

Hope the MRAs are enjoying themselves though

If youre not with them then youre against them, usual ideologue thinking

Missswatch

You don't think there are feminists among female soldiers? :)

Women in the ME pick up guns for the same reason men do. Because they need to.

In the west we fight the battles that we need to fight.
Physical or otherwise.