To lol at the feminism threads....

[Hannah4banana]

Seriously are people constantly looking out for a way to be offended first world problems!

I agree the system is bad for men and boys, whatever that system is. However it is being made worse - e.g. see Larrys post about 35% more likely that women will now attend uni that men, it doesn't take a genius to see how this will affect things in the future I don't think.

I think that the idea that ALL men are potential paedophiles has hollowed out male teachers from primary school teaching. If that is not the case, why is it? That is clearly very bad for boys from backgrounds without good male role models.

I think some understanding of gendered behaviour and how to cope with it in education is really important for boys to do well. However, for some on here, it is far easier to refer everyone to Cordelia Fine and assert (with very little evidence) that gender is entirely a social construct (though I don't deny it has a large social element).

I think you do, for instance, get predatory older women being lauded as 'liberated; for having sex with men half their age, when such behaviour would be condemned in men. Cindy Gallop is a prime example.

OP - you do at least appreciate that feminists got you the right to vote, to work and to do the job you in particular are doing?

OP - you do at least appreciate that feminists got you the right to vote, to work and to do the job you in particular are doing?

Grandma falicy again

Some bloke who classes himself as a "feminist" probably said it somewhere. They do that a lot, these "feminist" male activists, claim things that we usually fight against are "empowering"

user I see your Cindy Gallop and raise you Mick Jagger.

Don't know if either has had substantially different attitudes towards them in the meedja.

derxa just a normal so called good primary school in a MC town.

And I suspect it's more widespread that you think because actually a lot of girls are behind in maths starting secondary. An the top set in MFL are mainly girls at our secondary.

You don't always have to say things to tell the children that this isn't how it is. Just a simple difference in expectation will be enough.

In the same way, the children were regularly punished as a group. So all the boys aren't allowed to do xxx at break time from now on. The fact that some boys weren't involved in the incident in the first place and than some girls were never entered anyone mind. But it does teach children that all boys are boisterous and that all girls are quiet and not boisterous.
Ds1 used to grumble a lot about that saying it was sexist and not appropriate. And he was right TBH.

What's the Grandma fallacy?

Larry

Agree. It's also to do with the message, which is very much that young girls can do anything they want. Boys don't get this message since they are the default sex and all that. Basically, more of an effort is made to encourage young women in education - feminism IMO drives this. Combine this with the all men are potential paedos line and it's left our education system in a pretty perilous state. The fear is that in the future there will be a kickback against this.

Plus it's easier for third wavers to claim things are equal now and that negative things are "empowering" than it is to fight them. And then they just join the race to the bottom.

Grandma falicy again

Go on then - what's this?

No one has pointed out Lewis' Law yet

That comments about feminism online prove the need for feminism.

I'm only on page 10, so perhaps this has already been pointed out;

The same people who think that because they haven't personally felt lesser for being female (they're just one individual case of course) feminism is no longer needed, then make a sweeping generalisation that all feminists on a forum are a certain way because of one or two interactions? How does that work?

Fair point but I think Jagger is increasingly viewed as a sad sack. Anyway my point not so much concerns the double standards of society as a whole (which probably are still in favour of older men), but the double standards of feminists.

Just imagine this in the Guardian if the genders were reversed.

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/may/07/confessions-of-a-menopausal-nymphmaniac-sex-dating-apps

ODFOD WellErr instead of arguing the points or excepting that not everyone agrees in your ideology it has to be trolls right?

ODFOD WellErr instead of arguing the points or excepting that not everyone agrees in your ideology it has to be trolls right? hmm

FWR in a nutshell

But user we cannot reverse the genders because patriarchy. That argument is invalid apparently

lol @WellErr

don't know what grandma fallacy is.

misswatch FWR? dont know the acronym sorry

The feminist women's rights section of Mumsnet

Disagree with them? You're a troll and being goady

Thank you Miss (I havent said that sentence since primary school )

user men DO behave like that. It doesn't get in the paper because the idea of single men in their 50s having sex isn't novel. Post menopausal women are meant to go off sex and start wearing twin sets, which is why it's "newsworthy"

I'm not talking about whether it's newsworthy or not. I see why it's more newsworthy. And of course men do behave like that.

I'm talking about whether, according to feminists, it's excusable for a woman to behave like that but not a man.

Like I wrote up thread it's logical for any man to go for a younger woman. Less chance of birth defects. Feminists tend not to like science when it doesn't favour them