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This head is spot on

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Thefishewife · 02/12/2016 15:53

Give this head a prize she has nailed it I abore when people moan about what the school or the government will do to improve children's life chances
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994048/They-ll-wearing-dunces-hats-Primary-school-GRADES-parents-D-supporting-children-worst-performers-called-head-s-office.html
When the bottom line really is if we're all honest childrens life chances are linked almost exclusively to how Invloved there parents are in there education and how much they value it

You can be poor
Working full time
Of speak no English

But still highly value education

Some parents simply don't give two hoots won't have a book in there home won't turn up to anything and don't support the school with there child's behaviour

Won't get there kids to school on time or even pick them up on time blame then are shocked when there children fail I am not very well educated myself my spelling is awful however I have always taken my sons education seriously and it has bore fruit my lad done very well at GCSE and is now working PT and is in collage doing a level 3 engeerining course

My sons form tutor once told me that some of the parents send there 6th former siblings in Lu of them in on parents evening 🙁 Or even worse that she had serval students who, she never meet the parents ever not in 5 years couldn't tell you what they looked like and would never ring her back if she left a message 😳

It's about time some parents were called out instead of being allowed to blame the school of the govermnet for there lack of invloment

The link between parental involvement and a child doing well is proven and well documented

OP posts:
sophiestew · 02/12/2016 15:55

Who's got the popcorn?

JCo24 · 02/12/2016 15:55

YABU to read the daily fail.
Find something a bit more substantial than a rag with awful 'journalism' and that incites hate.

Thefishewife · 02/12/2016 15:57

Oh yes sorry your only allowed to read the Guadian on mumsnet 🙄

OP posts:
harderandharder2breathe · 02/12/2016 16:01

I agree with the premise of parental support being vital

I disagree with this idea of grading parents on it. How does the school even know what parents are doing?

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/12/2016 16:03

The link between parental involvement and a child doing well is proven and well documented So is the link between class size and educational achievement but it's so much easier to blame the parents.

Garyfetacheese · 02/12/2016 16:03

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Trifleorbust · 02/12/2016 16:04

I'm a teacher and get as frustrated by parental disengagement as anyone. But grading parents and calling them in to see the Head? Who does the Head think he/she is? I would be (politely) reminding the Head that his/her remit extends to teaching my children, not me.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/12/2016 16:05

Shhhh Gary. I was sitting on my hands to not mention the grammar. Otherwise it will become a bun fight.

splendide · 02/12/2016 16:05

There isn't a proven link between class size and educational achievement.

crashdoll · 02/12/2016 16:07

I'm not sure why you think that taking your children to school on time means you are active in their education. There is so much more than that.

EverdeRose · 02/12/2016 16:07

I agree in principal with the head, learning does start at home and the attitudes of parents does rub off on children.

If you continually drop your child off at school 30 minutes late, it shows them that having a lay in is more important than education.

If instead of helping with homework you watch TV every night, you're showing them that TV is more important than education.

My parents both worked, if they couldn't make it to my parent's evening they'd make an alternative appointment. They'd take an active interest in the topics we were studying and help with homework.

I disagree completely with grading parents, I think a quiet word in the ears of ones who don't seem to be taking an interest would set less teeth on edge.

heygotanygrapes · 02/12/2016 16:08

This should be good.........

Sirzy · 02/12/2016 16:08

The idea of grading parents is bonkers.

Yes parental involvement is important but how is a head teacher going to know what is going on behind closed doors? More to the point, unless their are child protection concerns, what has it got to do with the head?

Perhaps if parents aren't engaging the head needs to look at why this is rather than passing judgement.

MrsTerryPratchett · 02/12/2016 16:09

"Substantial research has been conducted in the U.S. on class size. Although most of the studies have attempted simply to use test results as a measure of the effectiveness of class size, there does appear to be some consensus on the following three points:

smaller class sizes result in higher achievement among students who are economically disadvantaged

smaller class sizes result in students with lower academic ability doing better

class size might affect student attitudes more significantly than it affects achievement.

The most documented study of the effect of class size is the Tennessee STAR Project (Student Teacher Achievement Ratio). This study found that classes of fewer than 17 students to one teacher are most effective. The latest research (April 29, 1999) states, "students in smaller classes outperform their peers in larger classroom settings." The 10-year Tennessee study shows that "students in classes of 13 to 17 have better grades, higher graduation rates, and are more likely to attend college."

"The research on student outcomes and behaviour tends to support teachers’ beliefs that they can teach more
competently and effectively in smaller classes. In smaller classes, students learn more academically and
socially; they are more engaged and less disruptive. Even when it is not evident that teachers have significantly
changed their instructional activities, student learning may improve, engagement may increase, and
“behavioural problems” may decrease. These improvements may be partially explained by an increase in physical
classroom space per student, providing more opportunities for movement, different grouping strategies,
and interaction among students and between students and teachers."

Sorry for the horrible spacing, it's a cut and paste.

Niloufes · 02/12/2016 16:10

Its clear that the parents need to be involved but so much goes on outside of the school system you cannot possibly say that because someone always picks their kid up late from school it means that they are a bad parent. The trains could be consistently late for example. And if a school tried to grade shame me I would definitely have something to say about it or in fact I may just ignore it.

ElphabaTheGreen · 02/12/2016 16:10
This head is spot on
myyoyo · 02/12/2016 16:11

That's truly awful.

splendide · 02/12/2016 16:13

The evidence in the UK on class size is that there is no long term benefit to smaller classes although a small improvement is seen in children under six. Sorry not really relevant to the thread anyway!

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 02/12/2016 16:13

Place marking. Just off out so will call back in later. Assuming it won't have vanished

insan1tyscartching · 02/12/2016 16:13

Gary Grin

IpDipCatnip · 02/12/2016 16:13

This will not end well!

I support my DC as best I can, however due to work commitments and shift work NO I can not attend every parents evening, assembly, production or activitiy. So in OPs eyes and the heads I'm a shot parent....Confused

So you OP are awarded Biscuit

WestCoastMainline · 02/12/2016 16:13

Parents are the cause of pretty much all kids' problems!

ElphabaTheGreen · 02/12/2016 16:14

Has anyone made a Mumsnet 'I'm just here for the deletion message' meme? Pom bear casually eating some artisan scotch eggs, perhaps?

IpDipCatnip · 02/12/2016 16:15

SHIT parent 😳 Who obviously can't spell so that just confirms it! 😆

happychristmasbum · 02/12/2016 16:17

Elphaba I like the idea of a pom bear against a backdrop of a map of Maui myself Xmas Grin