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This head is spot on

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Thefishewife · 02/12/2016 15:53

Give this head a prize she has nailed it I abore when people moan about what the school or the government will do to improve children's life chances
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994048/They-ll-wearing-dunces-hats-Primary-school-GRADES-parents-D-supporting-children-worst-performers-called-head-s-office.html
When the bottom line really is if we're all honest childrens life chances are linked almost exclusively to how Invloved there parents are in there education and how much they value it

You can be poor
Working full time
Of speak no English

But still highly value education

Some parents simply don't give two hoots won't have a book in there home won't turn up to anything and don't support the school with there child's behaviour

Won't get there kids to school on time or even pick them up on time blame then are shocked when there children fail I am not very well educated myself my spelling is awful however I have always taken my sons education seriously and it has bore fruit my lad done very well at GCSE and is now working PT and is in collage doing a level 3 engeerining course

My sons form tutor once told me that some of the parents send there 6th former siblings in Lu of them in on parents evening 🙁 Or even worse that she had serval students who, she never meet the parents ever not in 5 years couldn't tell you what they looked like and would never ring her back if she left a message 😳

It's about time some parents were called out instead of being allowed to blame the school of the govermnet for there lack of invloment

The link between parental involvement and a child doing well is proven and well documented

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FlissMumsnet · 02/12/2016 19:01

Evening All,
By now we all know AIBU's reputation as a free-for-all topic - but it's really not. It's meant to be for posters seeking genuine third-party insight into their problems.

We aim for interesting, helpful or amusing debate. It's easy to post in haste but please bear the above in mind when posting.

Trifleorbust · 02/12/2016 19:04

Rockpebblestone: As I say, I won't argue with you. I disagree but let's leave it there.

ElizaSchuyler · 02/12/2016 19:09

One of my daughters teachers sent her eldest child to her youngest child's first ever parents evening.

The reason - she was talking to me & the other parent's in dds class in great detail & depth about our children's progress. She is the most dedicated teacher & the thought someone like her would be graded down is appalling.

TheRollingCrone · 02/12/2016 19:11

Oh no! Shock I'm imagining myself doing the walk of shame to pick up my D- cert

ElphabaTheGreen · 02/12/2016 20:54

I think I love you Paul. Image saved.

If any fucker* uses that before I get to, I will FUME.

(*by which I mean any random fucker, not MN's own anyfucker specifically)

happychristmasbum · 02/12/2016 21:42

I really fancy a Pom Bear now Xmas Grin

PaulDacresConscience · 02/12/2016 21:50

I want this to be marked in MN lore y'know.

lola111 · 02/12/2016 21:53

One of my daughters teachers sent her eldest child to her youngest child's first ever parents evening.
she's an idiot and I am surprised if the teacher would be allowed to discuss her progress with someone who hasn't got PR, and even more horrified that your own DD's teracher thought this appropriate.There are obviously very valid reasons sometimes why parents can't go to parents evening- you ring up and reschedule, or have a telephone consultation., you don't send a sibling!

ElphabaTheGreen · 02/12/2016 22:34
SuburbanRhonda · 03/12/2016 08:49

I am surprised if the teacher would be allowed to discuss her progress with someone who hasn't got PR

We frequently have parents turn up with their partner who may or may not have PR. We'd be very pleased that they were taking an interest in their partner's children's education.

PaulDacresConscience · 03/12/2016 09:18

Are we starting something here - like a MN Militia, armed with the deletion meme? Grin

ElizaSchuyler · 03/12/2016 11:24

if Elphaba is starting a militia she needs monkeys

WouldHave · 03/12/2016 12:22

Why on earth would it not be appropriate to discuss progress with an elder sister if the parent has authorised it? If there's something that specifically needs to be discussed with the parent alone, I'm sure the teacher would have said so.

lola111 · 03/12/2016 13:21

Looking at the school website it seems they are now back pedalling furiously:-

   Greasley Beauvale Primary School
   Main Street, Newthorpe, Nottingham NG16                                  Telephone:  01773 768437                         Head Teacher – Donna Chambers                                                     

Dear Parents and carers

We do not ‘RANK’ our parents!

As I am sure a lot of you may already be aware, we are receiving a lot of media attention today. Mrs Chambers wrote to you this morning, but I wanted to share with you the line that I have taken with the press today.

“The parental engagement descriptors were initiated a number of years ago to gauge the partnership levels between school and parents. There are 4 different levels of engagement that staff use to gauge where partnerships could be improved and the ways this might be achieved for different families. The descriptors were formalised with staff and these have been shared with our Parent Parliament group. The work has been supported by Ofsted and in no way reflects the ‘grading’ or ‘ranking’ systems which are being reported. Any parents, who are struggling to engage with school, or who do not understand the benefits of home-school partnership, meet with Mrs Chambers to plan small steps which can be taken to improve parental engagement. Sometimes, when partnerships are not working effectively, responsibility for this can fall to the school and we would take any action necessary to improve these relationships. Mrs Chambers’ work has been shared with a number of parents, who have agreed to such research work and all have been ethically informed. We look at parental engagement all the time and research shows that it does have an impact on the progress and attainment of our children.”

Please don’t believe everything that you read in the papers and feel free to talk to Mrs Chambers or myself for more information if you require.

Thank you Mrs Bates

ElphabaTheGreen · 03/12/2016 14:02

Flying monkeys, Eliza...?

MidniteScribbler · 03/12/2016 14:12

I don't agree with 'grading' parents, but it is very obvious which students have support at home and which don't. It's not about being onsite all of of the time for volunteering, but it is about who is reading or doing homework at home (the kids tell us!), do the children have a suitable lunchbox each day (no school meals here), are they wearing clean clothes? You can support your child's education without actually costing anything.

ElizaSchuyler · 03/12/2016 16:46

The trouble with schools is
They always try to teach the wrong lesson
Believe me, I've been kicked out
Of enough of them to know
They want you to become less callow
Less shallow
But I say: "Why invite stress in?"
Stop studying strife
And learn to live "the unexamined life"

Sirzy · 03/12/2016 16:58

I have obviously listened to that soundtrack too much that I knew the song from the first line!

ElphabaTheGreen · 03/12/2016 18:13
Grin

It hurts to be so populer...lar.

Arfarfanarf · 03/12/2016 18:24

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lola111 · 03/12/2016 18:44

School and parents must work together but as equals, united in the best interests of the child.
on the other hand (around here anyway) there are lot of parents who consider the school and the teachers way beneath them.

Arfarfanarf · 03/12/2016 19:14

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