This head is spot on

[Thefishewife]

Give this head a prize she has nailed it I abore when people moan about what the school or the government will do to improve children's life chances
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3994048/They-ll-wearing-dunces-hats-Primary-school-GRADES-parents-D-supporting-children-worst-performers-called-head-s-office.html
When the bottom line really is if we're all honest childrens life chances are linked almost exclusively to how Invloved there parents are in there education and how much they value it

You can be poor
Working full time
Of speak no English

But still highly value education

Some parents simply don't give two hoots won't have a book in there home won't turn up to anything and don't support the school with there child's behaviour

Won't get there kids to school on time or even pick them up on time blame then are shocked when there children fail I am not very well educated myself my spelling is awful however I have always taken my sons education seriously and it has bore fruit my lad done very well at GCSE and is now working PT and is in collage doing a level 3 engeerining course

My sons form tutor once told me that some of the parents send there 6th former siblings in Lu of them in on parents evening 🙁 Or even worse that she had serval students who, she never meet the parents ever not in 5 years couldn't tell you what they looked like and would never ring her back if she left a message 😳

It's about time some parents were called out instead of being allowed to blame the school of the govermnet for there lack of invloment

The link between parental involvement and a child doing well is proven and well documented

And btw, all of those criticising the OP's spelling and grammar - read her post.

She's already admitted her level of education isn't good, so she has ensured that her DC's is better.
So let's not pull her down for that.

And however much MNetters sneer at the DM, there is a school out there that has come up with this system so surely it's a valid thing to discuss?

OP, you might be interested to know that those horror stories are also told to discredit parents who take their children's education extremely seriously, but are in the process of making a complaint against the school for failing e.g. to provide adequate provision for a disabled child.

Dd's teacher admitted on her school report that she had been left alone in a classroom without any maths tuition all term because of her disability (they couldn't be bothered to swap the classrooms round) and that this had affected her performance. Yet when I complained to the HT, he sent an EWO to lecture me on the importance of education and suggest that I did not take it seriously, to report me to SS, and to threaten me with legal action over her attendance record (despite full medical evidence). Because it's so much easier to make out that the parent is at fault.

I am an academic, education has been my life, it is something I love sharing with my children. But the school's attitude seriously did not help.

It took a good few years (and a very supportive secondary) to get the idea out of dd's head that school was a scary place that was basically about telling her she was a failure. Fortunately, she never lost her love of learning, though; she just saw it as separate from the school experience.

The 10 mins of reading is a job that must be done in our house. This is one of the ways we show our dc that we support what the school is trying to achieve. We get to school on time. Homework must be done (unless ill). I'm not convinced about the grading but I do feel some parents need to put more effort into the education of their children.

I read this article this morning (because the DM is free) and I was expecting lots of sad faces. The headmistress should be commended for trying to address a huge problem of parents not being engaged in their child's education.

Both DH and I work FT, we also run two businesses on the side and we have 3 DC, one with autism. In our hectic life we manage to get all 3 kids read to everyday and two of the three do their homework daily. Thank heavens its only 10mins a day for homework and scheduling gets horrific sometimes but our DCs education is a very high priority for us.

The grading sucks. They should be pulling aside parents who are in categories C and D and speaking to them. I guess they have already tried this and they didn't see results. Making the 'grades' public has made parents take notice with far fewer now in the C and D categories.

Sometimes you need to do things which are not so nice to get a result for the child. I have been told before that what I am doing is totally wrong for the DC. I listened and changed my behavior. I also don't make most activities at school. I do support them though via fundraising, sending in materials and DH goes to a fair few activities, including reading to class, doing an art project with the class and talking to the kids about Denmark and the vikings.

There you go Elphaba.

CBA to sign up so it will go pop in an hour, but enjoy!

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YANBU Thefishe I agree with everything you say and have said the same myselfmany times.

Aha - cracked it, I think...

'lola111: What data?'

whatever data she is using to grade them on! attendance at school plays etc!
It is just another cop out for crap teachers and crap schools!

I was sitting on my hands to not mention the grammar

Whistles nonchalantly

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lola111: Oh, I see. No, they would just be collecting their own data. As long as they then protect that data it's up to them.

If I have 14 pupils in the class I can work with them in a small group twice in the day, if 28, once per day. Teacher input makes a difference as well. Also I need to hold less information in my head and differentiation is more targetted (because it is easier to remember the specific thing Alice needed to practise and I can get back to Alice twice as often as in a larger class)

I totally thought this was going to be a sporn thread.
Oh well.

I seem to remember something about this research showing that parental attitudes still was the most influentual factor in children's educational attainment.

In other words, all the 'bridging the attainment gap' programmes, schools have been supposedly carrying out, have not been particularly effective. And here we have another one, another lot of teachers attempting to influence home life.

Perhaps if schools focussed on good quality teaching (instead of gimmicky schemes which don't work) and the government focussed on reducing poverty, we would have less of a problem in terms of the attainment gap in the first place!

Also, that study regarding class sizes is why DD's kindergarten class has 15 in an american public school. Honestly the school she is at is like a private school in the UK with their class sizes. Grade 1 has a class size limit of 20. All classes have a teacher and a teaching assistant. DD is in an inclusion class so they have two teachers and a teaching assistant with some of the DCs in class having an aide or a shared aide. As a result, next year she will be in an inclusion class in grade one that has 15 DC not 20 because there are so many adults in the class.

You would think they would have better grades but no they are through the floor. The game changer has been having a structured aftercare with proper homework help and supplemental teaching for students who are struggling as well a enrichment programs such as theater, dance, robotics, mad science etc all for $400 a year. They even feed them dinner. Test results are finally improving.

Bet none of the posters mocking the OP''s grammar would do so with the grammar used by the parents this school is talking about. But it's fine to sneer at people when you disagree with them, apparently. For other people, it's judgemental, you're just seeing a snapshot etc.

OP isn't being deliberately illiterate. She always posts in the same manner.

The school would have had us down as shit parents, what with DH being in the armed forces and not always available and me being disabled and often housebound. In reality we're very supportive and our children did very well. They went to an excellent primary school who always arranged for me to have parent/teacher consultations on the phone so I didn't have to worry about going out.

Parents are going to punish their kids for this. Sigh.

As a teacher, I disagree with the idea of grading parents- I think it's counterproductive for the ones who are already disengaged by education, perhaps due to their own personal, bad experiences.

However, I agree that parents have one of the most significant impact on outcomes. Although this article is biased, it really does put the idea of 'values poverty' vs 'Financial poverty' across well. Parents' attitude to education is enormously influential on the child's attitude:

www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-views/parenting-not-schools-has-biggest-impact-student-outcomes-so-why-are

Some parents I should say.

Oh do bore off, you only ever come on to post controversial shite.

No, they would just be collecting their own data. As long as they then protect that data it's up to them.

There's an argument that collecting that sort of data would be excessive, and they'd need a valid basis to collect it in the first place. You can't just collect any data you feel like.

If this head teacher has children, I wonder how many class assemblies, school plays and class trips she's managed to get to while running a school full-time.

Youreyouryouare: Really? I didn't know that. What sort of data are you not allowed to collect?