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Would of; could of; should of - why? Just WHY? Makes my teeth itch, AIBU?

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LadyStoic · 15/11/2016 21:36

I'm convinced I never saw any of the abominations above on MN a decade ago, even a fecking year ago. Now popping up like a persistent bloody virusHmmAngry

Just me or should I get my coat?

Oh, and another thing, if folks must use it, why the fuck do they I swear we are being infiltrated spell 'hon' as 'hun'?

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Motheroffourdragons · 16/11/2016 13:36

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gleam · 16/11/2016 13:38

Flak not flack.

splendide · 16/11/2016 13:40

You didn't miss some commas, you're overusing them.

Greengoddess12 · 16/11/2016 13:46

It's perfectly sensible to want good spelling and punctuation on a job application.

It's pathetic to criticise and take the piss out of busy stressed people on a site like this.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 16/11/2016 13:54

One of the errors that really annoys me is people who don't know the difference between "it's" and "its".

I think it's a question of age and education. When I was at school grammatical errors were pointed out and corrected, as were spelling mistakes. I don't think kids these days are so well taught.

I've seen reports that some teachers feel correcting spelling and grammatical errors is discouraging for children. These are the same idiots who don't correct sloppy speech, thereby pretty much ensuring their students never achieve their full potential.

Kids in fee-paying schools aren't brighter than those in the state system, but they are given the tools to help make the very best of what ability they do have.

Motheroffourdragons · 16/11/2016 13:55

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JunosRevenge · 16/11/2016 13:58

Wow, that escalated quickly!!

Just pointing out that I only corrected my DN because she is trying to get work as a journalist. I didn't want her to be flamed if she went into print with a 'would of/could of'. I wouldn't dream of correcting anyone else. Unless they seriously got on my nerves. Smile

DN doesn't write 'would of/ should of/ could of' any more.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 16/11/2016 14:11

As for dyslexia, one of my DC is dyslexic and it doesn't seem to have affected his use of spoken English. I spoke to my DCs in full sentences from birth and hauled them up on grammar because language is very important to me.

But I don't judge people on poor English. We all have our own strengths and upbringing is very important when it comes to the priority people place on written and spoken language. The it's/its business mostly irritates me when it appears in the media and official documents.

When it comes to MN posters, I don't evaluate someone's contribution on the basis of their use of English. It's the sense of what they say that matters. My DH, the love of my life, was crap at written English and you couldn't wish for a kinder, better man.

ArmySal · 16/11/2016 14:11

Well if you don't mind having mistakes pointed out, Mother, it's people who wear Christmas jumpers.

Your sentence reads as people who were previously Christmas jumpers.

I'm sure you know that though Smile

Gottagetmoving · 16/11/2016 14:18

I always say to her "if you left the should / would / could out would it still make sense

Brilliant way to explain it....I will remember that Chemistria

maroda16 · 16/11/2016 14:22

People who write "draw" meaning drawer, his instead of he's, and those stupid people who don't know the difference between your and you're, there, their and they're, to, too and two. Makes my brain boilConfused

name2change4this · 16/11/2016 14:23

It bloody annoys me too; along with there/their/ they're and your/you're.
Oh, and probly instead of probably and proply instead of properly (this annoys me even when it's just pronounced incorrectly).

I think bloody autocorrect is partly at fault. I also believe this is due to the contracted forms being pronounced incorrectly or misheard, eg, people hearing or pronouncing it as could of instead of could've.

Text speak probably doesn't help either, as words are shortened (or otherwise changed) and people probably end up forgetting the correct spelling.

name2change4this · 16/11/2016 14:25

I've only read the op. I'll now go back and read the rest in case I've missed anything interesting.

Greengoddess12 · 16/11/2016 14:27

Seriously posters are really bothered by spelling typos or odd grammar mistakes on an internet site?

Really? Jesus Christ.

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ghostyslovesheets · 16/11/2016 15:10

Why do people alway focus on dyslexia - learning disability covers a massive range of issues

Mine is more of a processing disorder that often gives me two choices - get it down on 'paper' and did the errors OR spell it all perfectly but totally loose the flow
Obviously in work and at uni etc I get everything checked but on a bloody Internet forum - ffs I can't be arsed

Chemistria · 16/11/2016 15:53

thanks gottagetmoving, at least someone listens to me ;-) I've been trying to teach her that for years, also that it's not called a "windowstill" Hmm (I'm not always this boring and don't normally correct people but she says / writes it all the time)

SenecaFalls · 16/11/2016 16:01

Good point ghosty. My (now adult) son has dyslexia and he also has an auditory processing disorder that limits his ability to compensate in ways that some people with dyslexia can. He struggled all through school, even with the extra help that fortunately we were in a position to provide. He even still goes back for extra tutoring in an adult literacy program to help him keep up with the demands of his job. It's a life-long challenge.

Threads like this one, which pop up on MN from time to time, are very disheartening to me because there is so often such a high degree of ignorance about how it is often the luck of the draw (better education opportunities, no learning difficulties, etc) that make some people more adept at language than others. And there is always lots of overt and even more covert disablism in them.

ginghamstarfish · 16/11/2016 16:10

While I agree that it's not such a big deal on a chat forum, it does matter in 'real life'. I'm referring to books, newspapers, television presenters and so on. These people are PAID and presumably qualified is some way for the job they do, one which relies on using the English language, yet they also use poor spelling and poor grammar. Now that really is not acceptable.

BettyBlue007 · 16/11/2016 16:17

I have a work friend who constantly litters her facebook posts about her son with He's instead of His. Like: He's going to He's dad's or He's wearing He's new jumper and so on... Irritates the life out of me!

BIWI · 16/11/2016 19:14

There is a difference between saying that something irritates you and judging other people.

Madamfrog · 16/11/2016 19:42

I taught modern languages in a well-regarded Gloucestershire comprehensive school for a year in the 90s. I had a pupil whose written English was incomprehensible, eg 'strodbees' for strawberries. He was entirely able to spell in French and in German and did well in written vocab. tests.

I went to see the English teachers to have a chat about him and was told

  1. 'He's dyslexic' I disagreed because surely he'd be equally dyslexic in foreign languages, so they then said
  2. 'Oh well maybe he isn't but being strict about spelling stops children being creative, so we don't correct mistakes'

I think this is appalling lazy nonsense which just perpetuates inequalities. When I said this I was told I am élitist and would think that because I went to a private school (where my spelling and grammar were corrected as a matter of course).

I really hope this attitude was an exception at the time and that it has now disappeared. Those people were failing that boy.

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LeavesinAutumn · 16/11/2016 19:46

interesting what are we supposed to write then Smile as in whats the correct thing?

NavyandWhite · 16/11/2016 19:50

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