Would of; could of; should of - why? Just WHY? Makes my teeth itch, AIBU?

[LadyStoic]

I'm convinced I never saw any of the abominations above on MN a decade ago, even a fecking year ago. Now popping up like a persistent bloody virus

Just me or should I get my coat?

Oh, and another thing, if folks must use it, why the fuck do they I swear we are being infiltrated spell 'hon' as 'hun'?

I don't like the misuse of myself/me/I eg myself and my friend went to the cinema. NO. My friend and I went to the cinema. I am writing to yourself. No, I am writing to you.

But my latest hate is "excited for" something. NO. Excited about. You can be excited for someone, but not something. I don't know where it's come from, but now everyone thinks it's cool and use it all the time. Especially on social media.

Most of the people I see doing this are facebook friends I went to school with (1996-2001). I know for a fact they didn't give a shit at school, were never diagnosed dyslexic and they've been communicating in incomprehensible text speak since the days of MSN messenger. There definitely were dyslexic children in my year but they were not these people.

I just cannot take a post seriously that says "Yeah hun you should defiantly of went down to the school and complained xx". Sorry.

I gather that some teachers in some schools stopped correcting or pointing out inproper English years ago so it's hardly surprising that people don't know that what they are writing is incorrect.

I know plenty of people who say 'could of' etc. who have 2:1 degrees and so refuse to believe that they're wrong as they 'have a degree so must be intelligent' as that's what they've been lead to beleive.

I think schools thought it wouldn't matter as spell-check would help but that's not the case as we can plainly see.

I know that it's becoming less and less fashionable these days to do anything properly.

Balls. Just seen all the spelling mistakes in my post.

OP please for your sanity, do not move to this part of the EastMids .. should of, could of, would of are said so routinely here .. and yes it makes my teeth itch and my blood boil ..
It was a mare in the days when I marked senior school essays

There's a cafe in our street which has a sign display with:-
'Afternoon tea's......
Panini's .....'
Very annoying.

LRD - it is pretty much accepted that most people were illiterate in medieval times. Only the very rich, and usually just boys were taught. The spoken word was key at that time, and people may have bean read aloud to.

No, it isn't.

There is a huge amount of research on this.

And what it has to do with this thread, is that I made the point that it is nothing new for people to substitute words phonetically. Nor is it somehow a terrible violence to language. I made the point just upthread?

it drives me nuts too, even my OH does it and i correct her all the bloody time.

I always say to her "if you left the should / would / could out would it still make sense"

I of eaten

I of done it

I of driven there

no it bloody doesn't!!!

I hate threads like this.

And all this, "well, if it makes me a bad person to think like this then so be it" attitude.

In my judgement it does make you a bad person. I do judge you. I judge you for your unkindness, your inflexible and intolerant nature and your self-congratulatory tone.

I judge you for short-sightedness and lack of imagination which means that people who might be trying to access help and support are put off because they feel intimidated by your snide judgements.

But mostly I judge you because you just cant keep this shit to yourself.

Hear hear Kondos

Spiteful posts.

It's gracious of you to say that. But ... I can't help feeling this is kinda illustrative of the problem here. You did a quick google and made a mistake - but you were quite prepared to assume you were right and to insist your error was 'pretty much accepted'.

You're leaning on educational privilege - on the assumption that you know what's correct. And that's fine, except, sometimes you get it wrong.

So, why judge other people when they get it wrong?

Asking for advise instead of advice.

No Navy I think it's gone down the lines of mumsnet is an internet site not a bloody job application.

Posters post for help and advice usually at stressful times in their lives and often on the go on a phone.

So it's pretty shite and cunterish to start a thread bemoaning that mumsnet had been infiltrated by basically thick and stupid people unlike a decade ago. Presumably then it was full of 'clever' people like the op.

Others have called those who can't spell and maybe dyslexic or uneducated thick and stupid with parents who couldn't care less about education.

And the op actually used the phrase 'making her teeth itch' and can't see the irony.

Spiteful thread

I know plenty of people who say 'could of' etc. who have 2:1 degrees and so refuse to believe that they're wrong as they 'have a degree so must be intelligent' as that's what they've been lead to beleive.

How does this play out then? They say "could of" (are you sure they aren't saying "could've") and you say "that's wrong" and they reply "no, could of is correct, I have a degree". This has happened plenty of times to you?

Some of us are learning disabled - myself included

Calling people thick who make simple mistakes as my learning disability means I often do is like calling wheelchair users lazy

Well done

Ah, I see.

I recommend that, in the future, you try proper research rather than 'a quick google'.

My PhD was on medieval reading practices, and now I teach in that area. I didn't get to that point by being snobby about SPAG, but by thinking about how language evolves and is recorded in writing.

FWIW, there are also professors in this subject (try a 'quick google' of Simon Horobin's name) who also talk extent to which way spelling matters, or doesn't matter.

I think expressing 'irritation' on a public forum is nasty, snide, and superior. And if I were as incapable of using commas as you, I wouldn't feel very secure in being so rude to others.

LRD now I have spat/spit/spitten my tea out.

Well those qualifications escalated quickly

Why?

You think it is perfectly in order to discuss what 'irritates' you about other people. Because, of course, no one should feel hurt or upset by such comments. They're not personally meant, right?

So, in the same vein, why should you feel insulted when I point out, quite impersonally, the manifest failings in your education and your capacity to punctuate according to standard English usage?

It's a bit annoying because it's so prevalent. There are lots of reasons why people make lots of mistakes in spelling or grammar. Just because some people in the world are dyslexic, that doesn't mean everyone else is banned from bemoaning the generally poor standards of literacy they encounter in real life or on the internet. Pulling individuals up on their grammar and spelling is rude though.
English grammar hasn't been taught much in schools for many decades. That's why the new SATS SPAG is proving so difficult for primary school children and parents and teachers.
Spelling is different though. To a certain extent you're either a natural speller or not. After that, it's just a question of whether you can be bothered to check spellings. Most people can't unless they are writing something important.