About people taking up room on trains!?

[ChickyDuck]

I'm on a busy train, next to no spare seats. I'm sat next to a bloke who is just taking up so much room! He's not fat, so it's not like he can't help it. He's just sat with typical man splayed legs and jabby out elbows - I can't even sit properly I. The seat without touching him so I'm perched awkwardly on the edge.

AIBU to think that you only need to take up one seat at a time thankyouverymuch!?

I am currently in a train in the winter dow seat. A bloke just sat next to me and tried to manspread. I opened my legs widely Luke him and just refuses to give. He could hardly hide his surprise. okay them at their own game is my approach. I think many med manspread because they've always been able to, we must fight back.

Hmm...you appear to be rather providing evidence for my observation there.

Ha! So while we're having a pop at gender related behaviour on public transport what pithy title shall we give the "oh yes, I must provide payment to the driver!! I'll rummage in my over sized bag for my purse for 1-2 minutes delaying everyone. Because having it ready in my hand just isn't for me"

Because women are not selfish on public transport at all

You said you'd only seen it on MN. I was providing you with additional information.

There's also a Wikipedia entry.

But you know how to google.

This spread needs to be confronted wherever found. You do have to push back and not mind though. if you are trying to leave a little space in between you they will move into that space. you must also be prepared to ask them to move up.

if you can possibly get a seat with an armrest that is good. if there is one make sure to pull it down when someone sits beside you/ you sit beside them (there can be no argument with this unless the person is obese and therefore actually needs the space - try to avoid choosing the seat next to someone who actually needs more room if at all possible).

I need to sit properly on the seat because I have back problems which are made worse by perching awkwardly on the edge.

I don't agree that people fumbling for their ticket has anything to do with this. also my experience is that this is as frequently men as women - doesn't really affect anyone in the same way as spleading either. why is it when someone raises an issue where men are making women's lives difficult / behaving badly someone raises a totally unrelated issue that women are allegedly responsible for?

It's called 'man spreading' because only men do it. HTH.

I 'menspread' back.
channel your inner german and use those ellbows!

And only women rummage around in a handbag, delaying everyone on the bus to find money to pay the driver. One "manspreader" will only inconvenience one, at most two other people. These women delay everyone!! 100% need to find a nice passive aggressive name for it

Had a bloke take it one step further with my son last week on the tube. Circle line. I'm in my wheelchair in the approved place, DS on the fold down seat next to me, with his heavy rucksack on his back as we head to the station for a trip to grandma. Since DS is leaning towards me, there is some space on that seat and a bloke, who is a complete stranger, sits down on what remains of the seat and proceeds to shuffle my son off it, without so much as a by your leave.

Everyone around gobsmacked at the behaviour. Once I got over the disbelief, I told the guy my son had been happily sitting on that single seat before he'd decided to join him, and that he did not feel comfortable sharing it with a stranger, especially one who didn't have the manners to ask before doing so. Please would he get up and allow my son to sit in peace?

No direct response, just muttering in which the words fucking, cripple, bitch and entitled seemed to feature, but DS is only ten, and this guy should really have known better than to behave the way he did.

RhiWrites

It's called 'man spreading' because only men do it. HTH.

Oh do they. Do tell me more (without coming across more ignorant and sexist than you already have).

I hope you'll be as comfortable using the term "ladygrousing" whenever you hear woman talk about someone's manspreading or mansplaining.

GrumpyInsomniac

They were clearly a prick. Some people are pricks. Some (50% (?)) people are men. You managed to post on this thread, far and away having the most legitimate grievance against someone yet managed to do it without blaming an entire gender.

I wish all posters were as intelligent as you.

Really worries me that women can't complain about a specific thing without men chiming in about unrelated issues.

Also if I was engaging with it I would say I've seen so many men rummaging for money for tickets, goods in supermarket or whatever I can't begin to count.

I keep my tickets and card in my pocket, ready to go, because I'm an experienced commuter. No over sized handbags for me. There are pricks of both gender, but on the route I take, most of them are men and the entitled ones taking up more than their fair share of space are almost exclusively men.

I use my bags to create a safe zone when unfortunately sat beside a man with over flexible hip joints

I also find wedging a book or similar between the seats helps to create a "boundary"

Say to him "Do you know there are a variety of treatments for Testicular Elephantiasis?".

Aibo, You really don't know me at all.

Are you really seriously arguing that women sit on public transport with legs akimbo? That's a thing you've seen, is it?

I think Aibo is,seriously looking for an argument, whatever the topic!

a man once did that to me on a train from
liverpool to london, i shouted jumped back all theatrically and very loudly asked he'd like to stop trying to sit on my knee

he stopped then

Hairy fingered whinge bags ahoy!

I always want to push back the manspreading numpties, but like I see someone has said up thread, they just seem to get off on it. I imagine a lot of manspreading is actually about being a bit of a pervert and wanting to push themselves against women and blaming it on the situation rather than their own sick minds.

I have tapped people on the shoulder and asked them to allow me the full use of my seat before

I got on a crowded train recently and found 3 empty seats all taken by someone's luggage - 5 suitcases in all, both on the seats and on the floor immediately in front, preventing access. The owner refused eye contact initially, so I loudly asked him if he would please move them so we could sit down. He made a great show of looking around to see where on earth else he could stow them (in the door area, where they were meant to go) and how difficult it would be to wheel move them, so I politely waited while he did it, and then thanked him.

There were a number of other people standing who'd not bothered asking him to move his stuff.

I imagine a lot of manspreading is actually about being a bit of a pervert and wanting to push themselves against women and blaming it on the situation rather than their own sick minds.

I'm male and am often on the receiving end of manspreaders too. I think it is certainly a way of asserting their masculinity, but don't think they are looking for cheap thrills.

Yes am male too and I am sure it's just insensitivity and entitlement not a thrill.

I'm the same Chickyduck. It infuriates me but I just fume silently them fume at myself.