To think there's no excuse for saying this to a child?

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I'm purposely not setting the scene, may do later but I'm pretty sure there aren't any circumstances when it's okay for an adult to say
"If you ever swear at me again I'll rip a piece into you", to an 11 yo girl.
Are there?

It's like tear a strip off you ie- being told off?

If so I think it's ok, hard to tell with all the vagueness

What does rip a piece into you mean?

I say to mine "I'll have your guts for garters!" - totally depends on the tone, setting etc

The child hadn't actually sworn at the adult, she was being wound up by him and eventually walked away muttering ffs under her breath.

I think it sounds menacing!

Was said very calmly and threatening. Child had already apologised for swearing

It's just a phrase. It's fine.

It's just words though
I think it depends on the context and the relationship

Yeah, I this k it's a figure of speech and is fine - not an actual threat

It's a saying like "tear a strip, the child was getting a warning that swearing wouldn't be tolerated.

I think it's just a figure of speech, to be honest - possibly a regional thing? (My nan would have said "...I'll send you into next week!"). I would interpret "rip a piece" as meaning I will tell you off severely. Can't say it strikes me as that awful.

It doesn't sound that bad.

There are a few variations on the same phrase, I seriously doubt many children would take it literally.

Still doesn't snot awful to me..perhaps if she was a toddler

Sound not snot

Meh. Without any context I can't really see an issue with that and that alone, no.

I guess IABU then... there was a lot of shouting going on before that must have clouded my judgement.

Its a figure of speech, albeit one I haven't heard, but I would say it like tearing a strip off you. As in you will be in big trouble. I think you're reading a bit too much into it.

Even looking at your pictures her posts it sounds like adult could have handled it better but I still couldn't get worked up over it tbh.

Yeah just sounds like a severe telling off.

Unless said whilst looming over child with clenched fist obviously.

The whole situation sounds horrible rather than the actual words.

I would take it to mean they were going to get a proper telling off if they swore again. I would be furious if my child said that, so I'd probably give them a big telling off the first time.

I think it's fine especially as child walked off muttering ffs,at 11! I would probably say the same and definitely calmly as I'm not a shouter.

It could depend on delivery tone and context. "Tear a strip off" My father standing over me with my own horse crop - yeah, bloody awful. My friend's dad sending her to a room so they could both calm the fuck down - not so bad.

I tell my kids I am going to punch them up the bracket

But jokingly

But in your example - a grown man sounding menacing - not good really

I recently said to my daughter "if you break that, I'll break you" (she kept messing with a glass case after being told to leave it alone). To a passer-by it would sound threatening, but in the relationship we have where we're a bit irreverent (I call them muppets affectionately if they do something silly, and we have lots of toilet humour in the house), it wasn't meant as a direct threat and was meant to be light-hearted. I understand how it could be taken as menacing though, as it sounds harsh, much like the 'threat' you heard.

A similar one said in the army was 'I'll rip you a new arsehole'.

Not sure on context but I'm not sure I'd say it to a child.