AIBU to think we should stick to BST all year?

[ForalltheSaints]

Reduce road accidents in November
Far fewer people start at around 6am since manufacturing industry was devastated in the 1960s
No need for schools to finish so early so children go home in the dark
Some schools might start later so rush hour spread out a bit more
Better for tourism

Scots would not like it, but if they were to vote for independence, could have the time zone they wished.

DesolateWaist - there was also an experiment in the late 60s -March 68 to Oct 71. I was at secondary school at the time and I definitely preferred the light evenings to light mornings - but then I was in the South East.
Overall there were about 2,500 fewer road deaths each year of the experiment, but it wasn't considered that there was enough evidence to continue the experiment.

FYI Scotland voted no to Independence. Scotland remains part of Britain / UK.

Did people miss that memo?

It's already dark in Scotland before 6 so this is the shorter days starting. We get less daylight in winter and more in summer. It's been dark all this week until about 7.30am so I'm hoping for a week or so where I can get up in the light.

No! I get up for work before 6am with a work start of 8am. I've a commute of one and a half hours. I hate getting up and going to work when it's dark. It feels like the middle of the night and I've got to drag myself out of bed. I don't mind coming back from work when it's dark.

YANBU OP. What is the point of an extra hour of daylight in the morning when everyone is either at work, getting ready for work, travelling to work or they don't work 9-5 and can stay asleep a bit longer?

Let's have it in the afternoon where at least the kids get some benefit out of it after school and most of the rest of us are at least near windows and can see it is still light out.

This is the second Scotland should suck it up thread about changing clocks yesterday it was blamed for london English babies getting up to early maybe Londoners should petition for their city to be independent from the rest of the Uk. The rest of the uk can change their clocks and not get up in the pitch dark.

It's not just about Scotland, there is a North of England too. Some of us don't want to sit in the dark until 10am, thanks. There are more people to think of than just the South. It's not all fucking fields and cows up here, you know?

MrsJayy, maybe the Scots and the Northerners need to stop being so selfish and start thinking of the precious little bairns.....

I live in the north of England and between mid October and February/March? I am getting up and going to work in the dark whatever the clock says, except for probably the next couple of weeks after the clocks change and I'd much rather have extra daylight in the early evening than the morning.

Another vote for GMT. I really really struggle with the dark mornings at the end of BST. I'd far rather have lighter mornings

I remember having to wait at a bus stop, eleven years old (1969) right next to Wimbledon Common, waiting for the bus to school. It was horrible. School was dark until quite late too.
As I recall one of the reasons for the change was safety for school children.

I'm a supporter of us moving to CET, which means BST is our winter time & BST plus 1 our summer time. It would have big benefits in summer as well as winter. Last summer u went to north west Spain in June. They are in CET despite being further west of the UK and as a result don't have the incredibly light mornings that we do in mid summer (instead sun rise is about 6) and instead enjoy daylight til nearly midnight. As a parent I loved the effect on the kids sleep. In winter I'd much rather lighter eves that lighter mornings - during the short days you have to get up in the dark anyway, so why not change so people are safer when travelling in the late afternoon

I know so so selfish Tarla .

CET does have some business benefits, and it might help to promote tourism in September. Either CET or year round BST would be an improvement for me, not to have dark by 4 evenings.

Does it really matter though? I am in Scotland and hate the dark winters where it's not light until 9am and getting dark again by 3pm. But changing the time on the clock isn't going to make it any lighter, or lighter for longer, it's just changing the times when it is light. Is there evidence that light mornings are safer than light afternoons? My eldest isn't out of school until 4pm some days and in December/January it's dark by then. Is it because the children going to school in the morning coincides with rush hour traffic too? Any stats I've seen quoted are pretty out of date.

Also can't believe people don't know that the further north you go the shorter the days in winter and longer the days in summer! In the north of Scotland in the middle of summer it's never really totally dark.

We need bst and bat plus 1. That way we get later in the day light when we can use it after school /work, and use less power. We might all get out more and be less fat too.

Proposed, but talked out by rees-mogg (the antidote to democracy, he kills a lot of bills) who appears to see no daylight anyway.

Different time zone for Scotland, maybe? Doesn't need independence.

I'm in Scotland and I'd much rather have the extra hour of darkness in the morning and an extra hour of light in the afternoon. DC are dropped at their school bus in the dark (7:00) and collected again in the dark (4:45) so it won't make a difference to them either way.

Hate the dark afternoons, bad enough that the miserable weather kicks in without it being dark at 4.30pm. Roll on Spring.

I love it how a few years ago it was all "better together- we love you Scotland, please don't leave us".

And now it's piss off to your own time zone Scotland we don't care if you spend all winter in the dark.

I wish they wouldn't muck about twice a year. Just leave the clocks alone. My cats get confused, well they don't, but I get stressed because they're demanding to be fed at the same time, but it's an hour earlier.

I'm a Scot living in England. So if they vote for independance, they can set their own time zone.

OFGS Of course we should keep it on BST all the time. Bloody Scots and Northerners. They get everything in this bloody country at the expense of London and the South East.

Why is a sweeping generalisation like 'Scots won't like it' ok, but the same comment regarding any other group of people would be met with cries of 'Don't generalise!'

"we don't care if you spend all winter in the dark"

Which is rather less heartless than 'we don't care about the excess deaths from accidents'

And multiple time zones in one country is established practice in some nations and sod all to do with independence.