AIBU to think we should stick to BST all year?

[ForalltheSaints]

Reduce road accidents in November
Far fewer people start at around 6am since manufacturing industry was devastated in the 1960s
No need for schools to finish so early so children go home in the dark
Some schools might start later so rush hour spread out a bit more
Better for tourism

Scots would not like it, but if they were to vote for independence, could have the time zone they wished.

YABU.

If we kept BST then many of us would have no daylight hours during the winter when we weren't at work. At least this way there's a bit before work in the morning.

I don't get the less road accidents argument.
Surely most accidents are caused by bad driving rather than the time of day.

Didn't they do an experiment where they didn't change the clocks a few decades back. It wasn't good.

I thought it happened during the war.

YABU. In the winter I leave for work in the dark as it is, it would be even worse if it was still dark at 9am when I actually start.

I think we should stick with GMT, I like it being light earlier in a morning. For years I thought it was winter that had a clock time different to the standard. I couldn't believe it when I found out that it was our SUMMER time that's an artificial time. Why bother changing the clocks for summer? It's light most of the day then anyway!

In 1940, during the Second World War, the clocks in Britain were not put back by an hour at the end of summer. In subsequent years, clocks continued to be advanced by one hour each spring and put back by an hour each autumn until July 1945. During these summers, therefore, Britain was two hours ahead of GMT and operating on British Double Summer Time (BDST). The clocks were brought back in line with GMT at the end of summer in 1945. In 1947, due to severe fuel shortages, clocks were advanced by one hour on two occasions during the spring, and put back by one hour on two occasions during the autumn, meaning that Britain was back on BDST during that summer.

At least the clock in my car is the right time now.

YANBU
I'd prefer to stick with BST too, it's miserable when it gets dark at 4.30pm.

My DC leave in the dark for school already in the winter, never mind another hour later. And I'm not in Scotland

British Double Summer Time - yes please I'll have some of that!

It's more beneficial to more people to keep BST and BST+1 in the summer so evenings are lighter when more people have time for outdoor leisure activities. When it's darker in the early evening people tend to go home and hunker down rather than get out and about,

The tiny minority in the far north could adjust their schedules a little to cope. Cows don't have watches so it doesn't matter what the clock says when the farmer milks them. Schools can start a little later if the dark mornings are considered dangerous.

But the reality is that the days are very short in northern Scotland in winter so there isn't going to be enough daylight no matter what time the country is on so I don't see why we can't go onto BST/BST+1 to suit the majority of the country.

I have 'fond' memories of 7 years at school of having to do compulsory hockey after school until 5pm and it was always dark and you couldn't see the ball But I'd still rather have had that than have the 9am start in darkness.

Why not switch to CET?

"I don't get the less road accidents argument.
"Surely most accidents are caused by bad driving rather than the time of day."

ROSPA does, though.

Accidents have contributing factors. Quality of light is one of them.

But all most people are doing in the morning is getting up and going to work/school. Why not have the light in the evening when people have time to go out walking/running etc?

If we can agree to keep an extra hour in bed so that it's light when we get up, then yeah I'm for keeping bst.

We should campaign for bst AND a shorter working day in the winter.

Always love how these discussions show up astonishing levels of ignorance (eg I thought it went dark the same time everywhere). Facts are: all time is artificial; we cannot create more daylight in the winter however hard we try; whichever solution we choose some folks will moan because guess what we're all different; for every piece of "evidence" that lives will be saved there is another piece to show that lives will be lost; actually it ain't broke so why try to fix it. YABU.

For years I thought it was winter that had a clock time different to the standard. I couldn't believe it when I found out that it was our SUMMER time that's an artificial time.

In Ireland, summer is the normal time.

meaning that Britain was back on BDST during that summer.

Careful with your autocorrect on that one - I don't want Britain to be on BDSM time.

I'd love it if we stuck to BST. It's so depressing when the clocks go back I couldn't care less about dark mornings but when it's dark by late afternoon it feels like permanent nighttime.

I'm surprised at people's misunderstanding about when it gets dark.

It does not get dark later in Scotland in Winter. Only in Summer. We get more light between the spring and autumn equinoxes, and less between the autumn and spring equinoxes.

I'm as far north as you can go, nearly. I don't care if we go with bst or gmt, just pick one and get on with it!

I had no idea it got darker at different times in Scotland and the south!
I just assumed it went dark all over at the same time!

I am sure you did, but didn't consciously think about it. You have heard of the midnight sun in the Arctic? All part of the same process.

It also goes dark earlier in the East than the west - there is about a 10 minute difference between Exeter and Oxford. Times weren't standardised until the railways came along. Oh, and that's also supposed to be one of Lewis Carroll's little jokes about the White Rabbit always being late, - because Oxford was a few minutes behind London.

But no, I really dislike the dark evenings...

But light in the morning sets up my day better, so I feel better at work. A light evening doesn't matter because I'd be on a train not out doing something and it would still be dark by time I get home.