DH being U about baby in restaurant?

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We are on holiday with 3 month BF baby. There's a fancy restaurant on site which we are booked in to

we have his mother with us, who will babysit, but she would need to bring baby down to us if he needs to be fed. Restaurant has said no to this as is adults only.

DH thinks this is terrible and wants to complain as baby will only be down a short while and purely for feeding, whereas I think it's just one of those things you accept with a baby and we will just have to eat elsewhere. So who is right?

Oh the irony of calling me crass for describing that for me being child-free as liberating (whilst choosing to ignore the fact that I said it meant different things to different people) when you said that women who suffer fertility issues and may occasionally want a child-free environment need professional help.

Math can you send your argument over to me, I need a new colander

...when you said that women who suffer fertility issues and may occasionally want a child-free environment need professional help.

'Women who cannot bear to be in an environment with children because of their fertility issues might consider professional help' was much more in the ballpark of what I said, but heyho.

I have suggested before that a little reading comprehension practice would go a long way here.

Your 'argument' is basically that women who choose to be more like men are liberated. They don't have to deal with childcare, with bearing babies, with the crimp in their social life or careers that having babies sadly still happens to a lot of women who choose to become mothers.

I am sure when you think about it you will see how limiting that really is for women, many of whom like the idea of being mothers and see no reason why they should be considered 'not human' or 'less well able to do their jobs' or entitled to a night out while still performing their lactating function, as a result of the choice to bear a baby or a few babies.

It is not liberating to have to choose between your biology and your career or social life. It is adapting to the society and workplace rules that have been created by men, for the benefit of men.

Sigh. You can't argue with someone who fabricates your side of the argument.

I know. It's like agreeing to a fencing match and the other person pulls out a trout. You could carry on, but... you're the only one with an actual fencing sword thing and also the trout is so utterly ludicrous you're sort of mentally knocked off balance a little...

RestlessTraveller you can't reason with the unreasonable.
Loving that you are choosing to live like a man restless that made tea come out of my nose.
How's that working for you

jis I am so stealing that analogy - it's brilliant - I can think of several situations just this week in which it would have been appropriate!

WTF? I'm so sorry jayis, my spellcheck seems to want to rename you as well - how rude !

I'm picturing math as the type of woman who has her own show on TLC to showcase her squad of brats little 'angels'

If only I could remember where I misplaced my penis kali.

Damm that pesky thing restless always falling off

Usually when people start talking about trout and resorting to personal insults and rudeness about a poster's children it means they have realised they are completely wrong but they won't admit it.

Usually =/= always.

Since apparently it needs to be spelled out, the rule of thumb applies in this case, JayisforJessica.

math how can you possibly know what other posters have realised, or won't admit?

By all means, share your opinion, but that is all it is; not an indisputable fact that you can spell out.

OMG Restless! You are choosing to be a man! I can't... Math is crazy funny!!

I must tell my fiancé. He may be a tad shocked.

I would assume that if people had arguments with any merit they would post them. When what they post instead is cheap shots and comments about my 'brats' then it's obvious and indisputable that they have run out of arguments with merit. If they don't realise that then they may have less intelligence than I gave them credit for.

If your baby feeds so frequently that it would disturb a meal I'd consider if going out for a meal in a restaurant is really appropriate at this early stage?

I've EBF two babies and at 3 months both were cluster feeding on and off all evening from 7-11 before passing out asleep.

If you're dead set on doing it then YANBU, you will have to BF the baby outside the restaurant somehow so as not to disturb the other diners.

I think math raises some valid points.

However I would generally avoid restaurants that have a no children policy. Even if I go out without children.

They are usually stuffy places full of people doing "serious" dining. Yawn.

I would assume that if people had arguments with any merit they would post them. When what they post instead is cheap shots and comments about my 'brats' then it's obvious and indisputable that they have run out of arguments with merit. If they don't realise that then they may have less intelligence than I gave them credit for.

The irony . It's hard to retain the moral high ground when you make cheap shots yourself

Any explanation littered with the words "assume", "obvious" and "indisputable" ceases to be persuasive and becomes bullish.

There is a tragic futility in continuing to insist that everyone else is wrong after they have acknowledged that you hold a different point of view to their own.

NNChangeAgain don't feed it, please.
I know the moral highground part is hilirious, but, just don't

The thing is all the posters on this thread are more than capable of arguing the toss with math - I think they've just given up banging their head against a brick wall and math is taking it as proof that she's 'won'

redpeppersoup yes. In a day or two she'll come back with an answer when everyone is fed up of responding and think she's won.
I do find it funny that she's trying to take the moral highground yet tried to insinuate some of us on here needed professional help

Math does this insistence on anyone being allowed to take any number of children to any public place extend to the theatre, or the ballet, or the opera, or to a poetry recital?

tas as math argued for the woman who took her child to the greenday musical and then complained when asked to leave, then i'd say yes.