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'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

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getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 11:01

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:15

Any more "SN brigade" type nonsense?

Anyone else?

Go on..

Owllady · 18/10/2016 20:15

I don't use mumsnet very often but I have realised on this that those hijacking the other threads are regulars on aibu but I thought as much anyway
Sigh

My neighbours accept my children anyway. We had problems with transport that have been discussed and gotten over.

Op if you don't want to buy the house don't buy it ffs

NavyandWhite · 18/10/2016 20:15

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PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 18/10/2016 20:16

Evening all
PEACE AND LOVE

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:16

Soubriquet we were angry at a later post which WAS about kids with disabilities.

Owllady objected then was treated like crap and told she was embarrassing herself. Nice.

ghostyslovesheep · 18/10/2016 20:16

Op I'd be interested in who called it 'supported living for challenging youngsters' - that seems rather loaded

I'd find out who was setting it up and who the residents would be

I visit lots of supported accommodation with a wide range of young people from those who are simply in care, to those who are asylum seekers, those with behavioural issues and lots of others - most are actually really good - a small percentage are awful - I'd want to know who would be there, who was running it and what their track record was?

'challenging youngsters' could simply mean looked after children or could mean older teens with a history or criminal behaviour

It's your choice - me I'd find out more first

I worked for a long time with a PRU - I chose not to buy a house down the road from our local one - so I don't think you are wrong to pause and think

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:17

Olivia you can have peace from me.

But please will you address all this SN brigade and silencing of posters dealing with disability and bullying them off threads ?

Many thanks

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 20:17

Well with all due respect here she was clasping straws and came on highly defensive.

The OP had been back and said it was a home for homeless youths not for children with SN.

Therefore it was unnecessary

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:17

*this SN brigade nonsense

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Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:18

Most young homeless people between the ages of 19 and 25 will have hidden disabilities of some kind.

Minisoksmakehardwork · 18/10/2016 20:18

Depends on what sort of challenging behaviour to be honest, and as it's not been built there is really no way of telling. SEN and disabilities and that would be fine. It's one of those things that isn't their fault and they wouldn't always be responsible for their actions. Plus being supported living, there would be people in regularly to help them lead an independent life.

But I drive past a house every day that was, until recently, a home for juveniles who didn't quite make juvenile detention but who could not remain in their home for whatever reason. Frequently when I drove past there were police cars and vans there. Friends who live across from the house had no end of problems with the boys (and it is predominantly boys) ranging over their farm land causing damage to crops and attempting to break into barns. This is a house which is on the outskirts of town, no direct neighbours.

I get that they have to go somewhere. But if I knew and I had a choice, I would not choose to move near to one, especially with a young family. The unpredictability of what might happen, 3am police call outs, potentially aggressive behaviour, even if not directed at my family, would worry me greatly.

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Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:20

Most of those young peop,e will have hidden disabilities. And that's what makes this disablist.

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:21

I was angry at the post by karigen saying she works with kids like mine and wouldn't live next to them. Frankly..fuck that attitude.

I didn't actually address the OP.

Although I think NIMBYism is low.

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 20:21

They might not
They could be juvies like posted up above

In fact my SIL works in one of these homes. The children are too hard for the parents to handle so need to live in a home for difficult children. None have SN. They aren't allowed to take them.

karigan · 18/10/2016 20:22

Because in their 'off' moments they throw things, hurt people and lash out.

As I said, I like my form group deeply- they are nice kids and all of them have good qualities. I choose to teach in special education because I really enjoy making that level of difference to someone's life. But the reason I said I wouldn't want to live next door to the kids in my form is because I can forgive (and did) a 17 year old biting me. She'd had an argument with a peer and went to throw something at him, I blocked her path so she couldn't hurt him, she then attacked me because she was angry. I sat with her in one of our 'cool down' areas, with the bite on my arm still bleeding and listened and sympathised whilst she cried and told me all about last night's phone argument with her mother that had led to today's blow out.
Fine. That's why she is in my form, in my school, in special education. I actually really like her and we have a really good relationship- cermented by the fact that I taught her to read last year.
But living next door to her? When a stray rock could hit my toddler if she has a 'red out.' (Given two of my form have previously hospitalised younger siblings whilst in a rage) No. I dont think i'm being unfair by saying I would never choose to put my daughter in that situation. I dont feel I would be a responsible parent if I did.

To anyone who thinks i'm insulting their children or pre-judging them. I'm not. I don't know your child and if they would never lash out in the manner described above then obviously they are completely different from the students i'm describing.

I think describing me as a 'disgrace' is pretty harsh.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:22

And angry at the abuse owllady got for saying same thing.

And people trying to bully us off the thread.

There you go.

Andrewofgg · 18/10/2016 20:23

Ausernotanumber Choosing not to buy a house next to that occupied where B, in the language of the Equality Act, is living or is going to live, is not discrimination within the meaning of the Act. You may disagree with OP not wanting to buy this house but it's no good bringing the law into it.

BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 20:23

This is ridiculous, only Fanjo herself has said sn brigade and kept repeating it. The op has explained it isn't a house for young people with special needs - how has this thread gone down like this

FlouncingIntoAutumn · 18/10/2016 20:23

It is completely to do with disability.

If you have a behaviourally challenging child and you're reading this thread its saying 'We deam you are allowed to exist, we're not racist/sexist/homophobic disabilist, but not in the naice areas that we live, you may live in isolated slums so long as you do exactly as your neighbours tell you and live in the knowledge that you're devaluing your neighbourhood by existing'.

Those who are saying they wouldn't want to live near those pupils they work with I really hope you don't teach my DC.

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:24

www.crisis.org.uk/data/files/publications/Crisis%20briefing%20-%20youth%20homelessness.pdf Navyandwhite just for you.

In addition 51% of all homeless people young or not will have mental health issues.

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