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'supported living for challenging youngsters' being built next door.

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getyourselfchecked · 18/10/2016 11:01

NC for this as could be outing. This is more of a WWYD really. I am at risk of sounding like a right NIMBY and I hate that its bringing this out in me but...
I am a single parent about to move to a new house. Building work has started on a 'supported living for challenging youngsters' development right next door.
Now, I have lived in some of the most gang-riven areas in the country without a thought but in my old age and with a child I admit I am worried about crime, drugs and ability to sell house on. I love the house and everything else is good.
WWYD? Still proceed with the purchase?

This is a genuine post, I don't have many people to discuss this with and I have never worried about house values etc in my life! I am genuinely surprised at my reaction to this.

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OhSoggyBiscuit · 18/10/2016 19:12

Owllady, step away. This isn't about you, it's about the OP.

Owllady · 18/10/2016 19:15

The OP who 'name changed'
I've ran out of patience

petitpois55 · 18/10/2016 19:15

I think some people have an agenda, and are trying to make the thread about something it is not.

WaitrosePigeon · 18/10/2016 19:16

What is up with people lately that they never actually read threads and go straight in for a fight??????

Tell me about it.

Soubriquet · 18/10/2016 19:17

Well I'm glad to not live next to someone who is constantly spoiling for a fight

Owllady · 18/10/2016 19:18
Hmm
NavyandWhite · 18/10/2016 19:22

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MrsMuddlePluck · 18/10/2016 19:24

Having lived a couple of houses away from a house for troubled teens, I'd add that the immediate neighbours had rocks thrown into their garden (not malicious, just not considering that their neighbours might not appreciate their 'games'). We also had trouble with groups sitting in the road (its a busy street) & several near misses with cars. As for 'supported' the chances are that support could only be 9-5, M-F.

The house next to us is now a homeless hostel (we moved here 20 years ago when it was a family home). Tbh, so far so good, but I have had to virtually carry a drunk gentleman back to his room next door, bins are left out on the pavement 24hrs & recently someone is parking on the pavement overnight (theres a big car park round the back!).

We daren't report issues in writing as that can now be reported on to potential buyers

If you dont need to move there - don't!.

Andrewofgg · 18/10/2016 19:27

Oh, that word "discrimination" being thrown around.

There is a legal and a moral duty not to discriminate on the grounds of (among other things) disability in employment, education, and the provision of goods and services; in every case the duty is not unlimited.

But there is no duty, legal or moral, not to "discriminate" in your choice of where you want to live, any more than there is in the formation of friendships or more intimate relationships. It really is not helpful to bring the language of discrimination in where it has no place.

And bigotry? The fact that this proposal will affect the value of nearby houses is just that: a fact. There is nothing bigoted about saying so.

CheekyMcgee · 18/10/2016 19:29

When I was young and homeless I lived briefly in a building for homeless people and you could smell the stench of cannabis in the corridors and the front door step would often be covered in vomit. I would not go ahead with the purchase OP. And as others have said, you're not trying to stop these young people from having somewhere to live, you just want to ensure you buy a safe home that won't fall in value. I think that's totally understandable and reasonable. Someone else can buy the house who doesn't mind about the new property being built next door.

I also agree that Karigan was fine with their comments and not a disgrace. And I speak as the mother of a child with SEN.

BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 19:30

I wouldn't buy that house op. Another one will come along.

Shallishanti · 18/10/2016 19:41

there is a hostel for homeless young people near to me (admittedly not on my street but I walk past it most days)- a colleague went there once, the kids were often homeless though no fault of their own, eg thrown out by parents because they were gay. I've never noticed any noise, mess, traffic- the worst has been someone on the doorstep having a fag. I think a lot depends on eg what the boundary is (shared wall? or does the hostel have a large garden round it?)

PersianCatLady · 18/10/2016 19:43

It would be helpful to know what the building is going to be exactly.

It could be a place for severely disabled young people to live when their parents cannot cope any longer with caring for them and their needs at home.

OR it could be a place for young offenders to live as opposed to being in a YOI.

It could also be many other things and they are all so different.

UmbongoUnchained · 18/10/2016 19:48

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Andrewofgg · 18/10/2016 19:53

PersinaCatLady If it's going to be something which future buyers would steer clear of, then so should the OP. That's the reality.

Owllady · 18/10/2016 19:57

I'm really not sure why I have embarrassed myself. I don't really do embarrassment tbh :)

DixieNormas · 18/10/2016 19:59

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PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 18/10/2016 20:01

Evening all

ChathamDockyard · 18/10/2016 20:01

I wouldn't buy the house.

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:01

A huge proportion of those young people are likely to have some kind of MH or LD or be not NT or have some other kind of issue that makes them disabled by the legal definition.

Too tired to worry about wording it in a way that won't piss off the naysayers

BeJayKayven · 18/10/2016 20:02

Honestly, where does it say that a person has to want to live beside the people they work with?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 20:02

Well it's lovely to know my child might end up being taught by someone who wouldn't want to live next door to him with their own child

This. And the fact someone is abused for objecting to this shows how entrenched the shitty attitudes are here.

UmbongoUnchained · 18/10/2016 20:02

Because youve gone in all guns blazing when OP had already said it's nothing to do with with disablity! And it's not a disgrace for a teacher to say how difficult it is to work with those teenagers.
Anyone can choose who they live next to. I care for my severely autistic brother and I wouldn't want to live next door to him! He screams.

OneOfTheGrundys · 18/10/2016 20:04

Karigen you are not a disgrace.

I too teach in a unit for teenagers with EBD and no way would I want to live next door to them.

Knowing what they and their families get up to at the weekends and evenings they are not people who I would want as my neighbours.

Sorry OP I would run a mile...

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:04

Olivia. This thread stands as an exemplar of the pervasive institutionalised disablism that is claimed not to be seen. It's offensive and nasty and really just dripping with undertones of NIMBY.

You really are letting a lot of parents of and those members with disabilities down by letting this kind of shit stand.

Disablism is illegal under the law. Equality act 2010 and all that.

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