To think only 3 of the 15 migrant children look under 18

[AmyMiller]

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3843900/amp/First-migrant-children-arrive-UK-Calais-French-prepare-raze-Jungle-camp-ground.html?client=safari

This is so ridiculous, many of them look around 25.

and if someone is judged unfit to stay where do they go then?

Brummiesue and the rest of you. It's good to know that based on a picture and a clip on the telly you are confidently able to make these judgments.

You know so much more than us lefty, bleeding heart liberals who work with and help these people. Next time I need medical advice I will ask someone who has seen a picture in a book.

Without being too sweeping people from other ethnicities can look/age differently. We look with a western eye. Not right, not wrong just different. So hesitate before you judge.

We are talking about the Jungle in Calais which is mainly male for reasons previously explained. We do need to help everyone but this thread is about one particular group.

i meant denied permission not unfit!

I've 5 DS , none of them or any of their friends looked ten years older than their chronological age. Who selected these men over and above the young children that we have seen at the camp?

If they can blag this blatantly it makes me doubt the validity of their 'family ties' too

Which other ethnicities have receding hairlines and crows feet at 15/16?

"All these threads show is how wafer thin women's rights are.

People care about women and girls until there's any kind of crisis, then it is literally every man for himself"

Yy almond.

Wars make this crystal clear every time.

sigh ...again these young men have 'been selected' because they have FAMILY already in the UK -

So am I right in thinking that these 'children' who arrived in the UK today have family here. Are they going to be living with them?

I'd imagine that it's possible for a teenager to have crows feet and wrinkles if they are exhausted, sleep deprived and dehydrated.
None of the young men were receding in the link that I saw.

Yeah - and because they are all in their mid teens.

SirChenin we get it - you think they are older :)

obviously the officials don't agree

It makes me so angry that these men are being prioritised over women and girls. Not only are their girls left behind, their disproportionate numbers affects the population of the countries that take them. The gender balance in Sweden for 15-25 year olds is now completely out of balance thanks to their stupid policy of taking those who could make their way there rather than taking vulnerable families from the camps who can't afford to pay criminal smugglers. Look at the wave of sex attacks carried out in Germany and Sweden by young men from violent patriarchal cultures. I'm sick of this travesty. Where are the Yazidi girls or the actual children?

And they look years older than my 20 year old and his friends. Children my arse.

In which case I'd expect them all (or at least a sizeable number) to have similar crows feet, given that they are all living in the same conditions. Funnily enough that doesn't seem to be the case.

Good luck to them, quite frankly - but if they are all the age they claim to be then I'm the Queen of Sheba.

Some of the ignorance on this thread is just shocking. Europe hasn't 'prioritised' young men, it's the young men who make the journey.

I work with refugee women, very few of them arrived in this country in the back of a lorry or whatever. It's their husbands who did that, claimed asylum, and then legally brought their wives over.

Yes Ghosty - because the officials have never got wrong, have they?

okay i get it they are being prioritised because they have family here but what about the truly vulnerable children with no family?

im not the only one who saw the receding hairline if you rtft you will see someone has said he was denied permission because he is TOO OLD

All under age children who apply for asylum in this country are checked rigorously by doctors and dentists and spoken to by social workers experienced in these matters. Any judged to be aged 17 and a half and under are granted asylum without having to go through the official asylum process if they have a valid reason to be here.
Those deemed to be older are either deported or have to apply for asylum as adults. This depends on their circumstances and their reasons for claiming asylum.
Yes there are people who enter this country undetected but those who come through official channels or are found in lorries etc have to go through this process.
Even children who do not have a good enough reason to be here can be deported.

Pity we can't learn from Sweden and Germany. I wish the UK would concentrate on taking genuine refugees from say camps in Turkey. There are lots of women and children there who should be prioritised over the economic migrants in Calais.

Urgh, YABU for reading the Daily Mail.

It has prioritised them by sending ships to bring them from the Libyan coastline, by Merkel's reckless invitation, by its borderless chaos and inability to deport those who have no right to asylum. At the expense of those who lack the resources to travel.

There are Young adults sleeping rough on our streets too. Just because they are not all congregated in one place doesn't mean they aren't there. Until those young teens are housed, how can it be right we house others, from France, who are living in similar conditions, in tents, under bridges in doorways etc.

The migrants in France are not running away from horrific conditions, they are choosing not to apply for housing in France.

It is not ignorance TrickyBiscuits.

If you encourage people to make the journey, rather than select direct from the camps, you prioritise young fit men.

Which is exactly what Germany wanted. They wanted to add to their work force. They didn't want elderly people, young kids they would have to educate or pregnant women.

Hence their get here and you can come in policy. Even if you drown on the way.

When I met dh (of that ethnicity) he was 18, had a receding hairline and crow's feet. And he definitely looked older than all the young men in the photos in that article.